Do you want an auction house?

Zanagan · May 2014

Yes

JD2013 wrote: »

Trading in zone chat encourages people to interact with one another, as it does with joining Trade Guilds. Having an AH would kill that off, too.

That is so laughable. If they only had a trade chat.

alphawolph · May 2014

Yes

Zanagan wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Trading in zone chat encourages people to interact with one another, as it does with joining Trade Guilds. Having an AH would kill that off, too.

That is so laughable. If they only had a trade chat.

I loath chat spam great way to be ignored.

Lodestar · May 2014

Yes

Zanagan wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Trading in zone chat encourages people to interact with one another, as it does with joining Trade Guilds. Having an AH would kill that off, too.

That is so laughable. If they only had a trade chat.

I totally agree. It is laughable. Dungeons hardly encourage player interaction enough. Can not say as what little I sold had ever resulted in my even seeing that character again.

Guilds are what that is for in many games. Yet ZOS decides it should be to sell each other stuff, and encourage them to be markets. Most good guilds I have been in, including the ones I am in now discourages sales between players as it negatively impacts player interaction. I left one guild in ESO because of it.

Orizuru · May 2014

No

Zanagan wrote: »

JD2013 wrote: »

Trading in zone chat encourages people to interact with one another, as it does with joining Trade Guilds. Having an AH would kill that off, too.

That is so laughable. If they only had a trade chat.

Trade channels don't work very well.

Even in games where they exist, people still spam the channel with the most people.

An AH really doesn't solve the problem completely, because there are always people who would rather sell this way because they either have something against the AH or the fees associated with it, or believe they can reach a larger audience in public channels than an AH. And then there are the people who list an item in the AH and then feel it's necessary to advertise the listing in public channels.

Whether or not the game needs an AH should really be treated as a separate issue from the people advertising in public chat channels. This would help to keep a few of the straw man arguments out of the discussion.

alphawolph · May 2014

Yes

I'm curious if we will get a 60/40 split like the other poll.

Orizuru · May 2014

No

alphawolph wrote: »

I'm curious if we will get a 60/40 split like the other poll.

We might see a 2-5% shift either way due to people simply leaving the discussion. It really has turned into beating a dead horse at this point.

I just wish there was a way to do these polls that had a chance of getting more players involved than the ones who visit the forums. The number of people who actually respond to these polls on the forums is such a small sample of the player-base that it really doesn't give enough results to be able to draw any truly effective conclusions.

zhevon · May 2014

Yes

I have changed my mind - the guild market place is just too small. Only thing I have successfully sold there are racial motifs. Only thing I have bought there was a blue recipe.

Now if the guild market place would allow you to lower the price without relisting and taking the hit it might help a bit but as it stands the guild market(s) are just too small and unwieldy.

Lodestar · May 2014

Yes

alphawolph wrote: »

I'm curious if we will get a 60/40 split like the other poll.

Minus 1 percent don't forget

Blackwidow · May 2014

Yes

NaciremaDiputs wrote: »

I just wish there was a way to do these polls that had a chance of getting more players involved than the ones who visit the forums. The number of people who actually respond to these polls on the forums is such a small sample of the player-base that it really doesn't give enough results to be able to draw any truly effective conclusions.

People always say this where their side is losing in the polls.

Swampster · May 2014

Yes

This argument about AH=BOTS is just plain ***!!

Have people been playing a different game to me? I've NEVER seen an MMO that is so saturated with BOTS as this game currently is!

And I see the usual... AH will cause MASSIVE inflation/AH will cause MASSIVE deflation are in full effect!

robacooperb16_ESO · May 2014

No

Gold Sellers are bad enough as it is, so I can't support giving them an easy venue to make gold to sell - besides I like the separate guild stores and I'm very interested to see how the 'store front' plan works out when it's rolled-out.

Teverus · May 2014

No

I never liked auction house systems, and I hear they're implementing a vendor system at some point. Much better than auction houses.

Drachenfier · May 2014

Yes

NaciremaDiputs wrote: »

alphawolph wrote: »

I'm curious if we will get a 60/40 split like the other poll.

We might see a 2-5% shift either way due to people simply leaving the discussion. It really has turned into beating a dead horse at this point.

I just wish there was a way to do these polls that had a chance of getting more players involved than the ones who visit the forums. The number of people who actually respond to these polls on the forums is such a small sample of the player-base that it really doesn't give enough results to be able to draw any truly effective conclusions.

It's still a sampling of your target demographic. If every player in the game came here to vote, results would probably be roughly the same.

Eivar · May 2014

No

I voted no obviously, I think with a few tweaks, guild stores will be a great way to have an economy, I think the guild kiosks will be a great addition I just hope it isn't one per zone/city. I think a guild marketplace area in each zone with 4-5 kiosks for guilds to bid on and sell their wares from(though only one kiosk per guild total) would be great. Also allow for non guild members to buy from guild stores in cyrodiil keeps.

Tannakaobi · May 2014

Yes

I vote yes because it would be better than guild stores but...

Has anyone played age of wushu? I really like there store system and with a little tweak it could work really well in ESO.

Basically you have market area's. You go there, set up your stall and wait. I don't like waiting so I suggest off-line stores. The idea being while you are off-line, you can set up a market stall. If you had that along side the guild stores I think it would be really nice.

As buyers we could head down to the market and look for what we want, because most towns/villages would have these market area's people would most likely sell goods relevant to the area's level. It would really add to the feel of towns imo. Also, instead of the bank being everything, can we have an actual guildhall for guild auctions.

For a game that claims to be RP and immersive it really does have some strange things. Don't even get me started on magic portal boats and the fact that every Tom, *** and Harry can open a portal to.. well.. anywhere except me of course.

Drachenfier · May 2014

Yes

ThisOnePosts · May 2014

No

Typically I like Auction Houses. However, I think it would be best to have something that meets half-way, like what another suggested Keep Stores and Guild stores to the public. Heck it would be very cool if they had a whole area dedicated to guild stores, where you can go and talk to NPC merchants representing the guilds and browse their stores. There will be A LOT to sift through, however maybe they could be in order a bit based on # of items listed, guild members, VR guilds, etc.. there are many ways to do it.

The main issue with Auction Houses... despite lag with them at times, it's easy to corner a market on something and buy up all of particular items and then resell them at very high prices. This is not a good thing for the community. GW2 did that with certain dyes... luckily I had my hands on all of the expensive ones that I wanted but I noticed people doing this.

Unless there was sort of price stabilizing but that would be a lot more extra work, testing, upkeep for ZOS and they have more important and better things to focus on.

Everyone seems to have their own opinions on this, but I really believe some sort of hybrid would be great.

ThisOnePosts · May 2014

No

Also FYI, unless it's very rare items... an Auction House would be much harder to sell materials, etc... because of people going 1gold below you, ... it will drive prices down on many things to unfair amounts and too high on other items where people hoard as many of them as they can.

I would also like to see a chat channel dedicated to Trading, similar to what you see in TSW (The Secret World). It could go cross-instance and people can just meet up on each other if they are in different instances (or use COD of course).

r0cka · May 2014

Yes

If we have AH but with only 10 listings every 24 hours.... and u can buy as much as u want

Blackwidow · May 2014

Yes

ViciousWayz wrote: »

Typically I like Auction Houses. However, I think it would be best to have something that meets half-way, like what another suggested Keep Stores and Guild stores to the public. Heck it would be very cool if they had a whole area dedicated to guild stores, where you can go and talk to NPC merchants representing the guild's and browse their stores. There will be A LOT to sift through, however maybe they could be in order a bit based on # of items listed, guild members, VR guilds, etc.. there are many ways to do it.

That just seems like a much more complicated global AH.

The main issue with Auction Houses... despite lag with them at times, it's easy to corner a market on something and buy up all of particular items and then resell them at very high prices. This is not a good thing for the community.

First, what do you think people are doing now in guild stores? They are doing this very thing, but it is easier, because they only have to buy a few items instead of thousands.

Second, if it was done on a real AH, at least players all over could add more of the item and that would kill that system. Balance it a lot easier to achieve on a massive scale.

Unless there was sort of price stabilization but that would be a lot more extra work, testing, upkeep for ZOS and they have more important and better things to focus on.

Price stabilization happens naturally over time. If you see a price that is too high, don't buy it. Wait until it goes down. It always will.

Everyone seems to have their own opinions on this, but I really believe some sort of hybrid would be great.

Anything is better than what they have now.

ImaginaryDimension · May 2014

Yes

This game needs an auction house, even a 500 man guild store x 5 guilds doesn't offer as much as I'd like.

I'm still finding myself spamming in /zone trying to find a specific rune or ingredient because none of my trade guilds have it in the store.

+1 for auction house.

radiostar · May 2014

No

But would like the Guild Stores streamlined. @player should be able to post items to all of their Gstores simultaneously, perhaps with a higher posting cap instead of 30 items. @player should also be able to peruse all their Gstore offerings simultaneously, with much better searching functions.

And how will a global AH impact Alliance keep stores in Cyrodiil?

Rather wait to see what ESO is adding with the Kiosks.

Jeremy · May 2014

htoncic wrote: »

LOL, look at all these people trying to be the special snowflake by keeping prices artificially high. Trying to peddle the idea that competition in a free market is a bad thing. Please...

Having played GW2 for a year and a half, I can say confidently that the global market there is one of the few things that work spectacularly well in that game.

Good post.

I do think many of the people who oppose an auction house are those who want to avoid competition in the market place for their own ends.

And I agree with you about GW2. That Auction house on that game was amazing - and the only thing about that game I liked.

Blackwidow · May 2014

Yes

Jeremy wrote: »

I do think many of the people who oppose an auction house are those who want to avoid competition in the market place for their own ends.

DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!

QFT!

Cybrdroyd · May 2014

Yes

I would prefer the auction house over guild stores to be honest. I hate that my market is limited to just my 5 guilds. I really dont want to stand around in zone chat peddling my wares either. This system doesn't really add anything to the game, its just a pain.

Jeremy · May 2014

JD2013 wrote: »

I voted yes, but then I had a think about it.

An AH would probably over-inflate prices even more as they do on other MMO's, and cause elitism, with a small percentage of players dictating prices and farming resources even more to get more gold. It's a simple case of wanting what we don't have.

Trading in zone chat encourages people to interact with one another, as it does with joining Trade Guilds. Having an AH would kill that off, too.

Not to mention with all of the problems that would come with the bots and an AH.

Let's not have an AH please.

A more competitive market (as would be the case with an AH) would bring prices down JD. Not up.

The one point I do agree with you on though is that adding an AH would cut way back on the trade spam infecting zone chat. But many of us (myself included) see that as a good thing, not a bad.

Lumpy_Space_Elf · May 2014

No

No. No AH, we don't need one. People have been spoiled by WoW in so many ways, but I think the pervasiveness of the AH and how people now feel all MMO's MUST have an AH is the worst thing to come from WoW.

Why do you that want an AH want to help the bots and gold sellers? If there is an AH it is almost a guarantee that you will be buying from them at one point or another. And there would be no way to know b/c they won't be as obvious as they are naming their bots, the AH mules will have normal and appropriate names instead of finger drags on the keyboard. The system we have now w/ the Guild Stores, and people finding trades in chat is just fine. In fact, I think we'd be fine w/o even the Guild Stores, but these I have no problem with.

Everyone can join FIVE guilds! What you do is find your main guild that you want to adventure with, and then join four large and active Trade and/or Crafting guilds and you will have it all. You'll have your friends and adventuring companions, and more goods then you could ever need at your fingertips in the four Guild Stores.

No AH, please.

Blackwidow · May 2014

Yes

Lumpy_Space_Elf wrote: »

No. No AH, we don't need one. People have been spoiled by WoW in so many ways, but I think the pervasiveness of the AH and how people now feel all MMO's MUST have an AH is the worst thing to come from WoW.

Don't be a WoW clone?

/invalid reason.

Why do you that want an AH want to help the bots and gold sellers? .

Guild stores slow down gold sellers?

/invlaid reason.

What else ya got?

Eivar · May 2014

No

Blackwidow wrote: »

Lumpy_Space_Elf wrote: »

No. No AH, we don't need one. People have been spoiled by WoW in so many ways, but I think the pervasiveness of the AH and how people now feel all MMO's MUST have an AH is the worst thing to come from WoW.

Don't be a WoW clone?

/invalid reason.

Why do you that want an AH want to help the bots and gold sellers? .

Guild stores slow down gold sellers?

/invlaid reason.

What else ya got?

/invalid

Drachenfier · May 2014

Yes

Lumpy_Space_Elf wrote: »

No. No AH, we don't need one. People have been spoiled by WoW in so many ways, but I think the pervasiveness of the AH and how people now feel all MMO's MUST have an AH is the worst thing to come from WoW.

Anarchy Online had an AH in 2001. Just an FYI.

Why do you that want an AH want to help the bots and gold sellers?

It actually drives down their income when the player base has a chance to compete with them. In ESO as it currently stands, bots are selling crafting mats right off of their website.

Everyone can join FIVE guilds!

I'm in five dead guilds. Tired of guild hopping. Never seen an MMO with such a non community.