Players are fighting other players.
Player vs player.

I think some structured PvP would be nice but AvA is PvP.

If you don't like zergs, then don't participate in them, simple as that. It really isn't that hard to find good 1v1 situations in Cyrodiil.

You can find endless 1v1 and 3v3 small skirmish and ambush fights everywhere as long as you dont follow the zerg. You can wait at any road or path that leads from teh enemies supply line port keep and kill enemy players trying to get to the zergs or keep seiges.

You just have to look at the map and know where to go. This game doesnt hold your hand and set up a 1v1 fight for you. You have to go and find it. Since the map i so big and everyone can use sneak, it is easy to avoid teh zerg.

trollthread, plz close - or at least dont feed the troll..

Kewljag_66_ESO wrote: »

You can find endless 1v1 and 3v3 small skirmish and ambush fights everywhere as long as you dont follow the zerg. You can wait at any road or path that leads from teh enemies supply line port keep and kill enemy players trying to get to the zergs or keep seiges.

You just have to look at the map and know where to go. This game doesnt hold your hand and set up a 1v1 fight for you. You have to go and find it. Since the map i so big and everyone can use sneak, it is easy to avoid teh zerg.

^This. Nothing is set in stone. You aren't in completely predictable situations. You must adapt to your surroundings. You may encounter one or both other alliances in a fight. The unpredictable nature of a 3 way open world environment brings much more than a scripted XvX fight that some people call "competitive"

The OP either want arena combat which is a perfectly legal wish, or he wants to be able to grief pve'ers which he should never be allowed to.

The problem with Cyrodiil atm is that there are no real chokepoints that works for small group pvp. In daoc you had the emain gates in old frontier and in new frontier you had the front islands near the landing spots and their bridges.

Cyrodiil is just one big landmass with multiple routes to anywhere, combine this with how slow people move here compared mto daoc and small group encounters become extremely rare.

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

The OP either want arena combat
The problem with Cyrodiil atm is that there are no real chokepoints that works for small group pvp. In daoc you had the emain gates in old frontier and in new frontier you had the front islands near the landing spots and their bridges.

Cyrodiil is just one big landmass with multiple routes to anywhere, combine this with how slow people move here compared mto daoc and small group encounters become extremely rare.

There are so many choke points its unbelievable.
There are 3 main large group choke points, the gates/bridge between alliance territory, there are several smaller choke points most are made from the landscape, designed to funnel people to use certain paths you can actually cause a lot of trouble quite easily, but these choke points are more vulnerable.

Putting in anymore choke points is a good way of strangling the zone.

Did someone say "no choke points"...?
Yes it is open world, but the terrain and even structures such as gates and bridges create said "choke points" all over the map. Press the "M" key and find an enemy keep.. then look for the nearest keep that is yours and poof.. Travel that path between the two and often you will see so many spots you can almost cry... I often choose ones near a cliff, so I have a possible escape route when in dire need.

xDonMega wrote: »

I'd be all for the option of an open world pvp server..

If you don't want to get ganked running quests don't play on that server.

That is not happening. Not without major changes, and a serious amount of time and effort. From the very unsuccessful pvp servers in DAoC(where some devs come from), as well as most other games that have it... I would bet a large sum of money, that you will never see it in ESO.

lol I ran out of current content in WoW after playing it for a little over a month(from 1-90). What I have to do when I log in: Do 1 raid a week. Do a couple bosses a week that i teleport to. And .... Do instanced PvP that is horrible.

The dungeons are a joke, and faceroll easy even for freshly leveled.

From a game that is so highly talked about.. there is really VERY little current content. Only reason I played is because my wife likes it. And this is at the END of an expansion cycle... when there should be the most current content.

Ugh.. Why am I talking about wow

ularis wrote: »

Nope in Cyrodiil u cannot find any small groups please stop be ridiculous. even if u find it unbalanced u are 10 vet x 5 and enemy 1-2 vet without gear what is fun of that ? Attacking " suply lines" is pure suicide "PVP/E" in Teso is anty Hardcore PVP players .

I have to disagree being in a very hardcore guild myself.
Suicide is zerging like a maniac without planning.