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I should not have to make this post - NB Above and Beyond
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Above and Beyond's critical dmg being set to 5% in PvP is such a overly heavy handed nerf that it makes the critical damage class mastery on the class most focused around critical damage do less damage than something like Nocturnal's Inspiration, the ult gen mastery, with Balorgh.
Seriously, I am getting about 1.1 ult out of Nocturnal's Inspiration so every potion cooldown (45 seconds) I get about 50 un-buffed weapon dmg and 1,150 pen. If you were to look at it from the mundus stones and their values this 50 Wpn dmg and 1150 pen is already a lot more stat value than 5% crit dmg before the buffs like major brutality. And that's just if i ult every 45 seconds.
I am literally a high crit nightblade and I am finding more value in Nocturnals inspiration when it comes to my damage than the entire crit damage class mastery. I am not even running Above and Beyond anymore and I've been seeing other Nightblades not running it either. Why was this allowed to make it to live? This needs to be adjusted. Nightblade should not even have a pvp related nerf on their class masteries in nightblade's current state at all, let alone a 80% nerf.
I feel like this was missed because the 30% increase to crit cap was taken into account and weighted incorrectly without thought for crit resists and how it functions with crit damage in pvp which led to NB getting shafted. We would have to build like 200%+ crit dmg in order to make use of the 155% crit cap, Zos. Because enemy players crit resist negates crit damage so we were already building above the 125% crit cap. The cap increase does nothing for us. PvP is not PvE. Alls any NB is gonna care about in pvp is the crit damage and not the crit cap increase. Especially with everyone running rallying cry. I shouldn't have to make this post to point this out.
If you really are dead set on nerfing at least something on Above and Beyond then nerf the crit cap increase down to 5% or 0% and give us the full 25% crit damage. Until then I will not use Above and beyond because my ult gen mastery gives me more damage than my crit dmg mastery on my crit dmg build on my crit dmg class
Edited by XVestigeXx on 25 August 2026 00:50 Seriously, I am getting about 1.1 ult out of Nocturnal's Inspiration so every potion cooldown (45 seconds) I get about 50 un-buffed weapon dmg and 1,150 pen. If you were to look at it from the mundus stones and their values this 50 Wpn dmg and 1150 pen is already a lot more stat value than 5% crit dmg before the buffs like major brutality. And that's just if i ult every 45 seconds.
I am literally a high crit nightblade and I am finding more value in Nocturnals inspiration when it comes to my damage than the entire crit damage class mastery. I am not even running Above and Beyond anymore and I've been seeing other Nightblades not running it either. Why was this allowed to make it to live? This needs to be adjusted. Nightblade should not even have a pvp related nerf on their class masteries in nightblade's current state at all, let alone a 80% nerf.
I feel like this was missed because the 30% increase to crit cap was taken into account and weighted incorrectly without thought for crit resists and how it functions with crit damage in pvp which led to NB getting shafted. We would have to build like 200%+ crit dmg in order to make use of the 155% crit cap, Zos. Because enemy players crit resist negates crit damage so we were already building above the 125% crit cap. The cap increase does nothing for us. PvP is not PvE. Alls any NB is gonna care about in pvp is the crit damage and not the crit cap increase. Especially with everyone running rallying cry. I shouldn't have to make this post to point this out.
If you really are dead set on nerfing at least something on Above and Beyond then nerf the crit cap increase down to 5% or 0% and give us the full 25% crit damage. Until then I will not use Above and beyond because my ult gen mastery gives me more damage than my crit dmg mastery on my crit dmg build on my crit dmg class
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Agreed and for the love of god give nbs its stun back on its spammable and we might be able to kill someone1
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GulmarAvocado✭✭✭Yeah, it’s insane to me that both Above and Beyond and An Eye for Exploitation get such severe nerfs in PvP, while classes like Sorc don’t have any Battle Spirit limitations on their masteries despite already being arguably the strongest open world PvP class in the game.
Above and Beyond probably shouldn’t give the full 25% Critical Damage in PvP, that’s admittedly quite a lot, but even half of that would be nice. Meanwhile, Warden and Sorc can get class masteries that provide 1k+ Weapon and Spell Damage in most circumstances, while NB’s An Eye for Exploitation is dependent on the current health of your target and is capped at 1k instead of the 2k it gets in PvE.
I understand that some masteries can become overpowered in PvP and need Battle Spirit adjustments, but NB in particular didn’t deserve nerfs this severe when other, stronger classes have no such restrictions at all.I like avocados4