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El_Borracho wrote: »

ketsparrowhawk wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Its almost like perpetually begging for nerfs has adverse consequences that are entirely foreseeable and gradually make the PVP experience worse for everyone.

I don't think I will ever understand the "never nerf" mentality. If one thing is too strong the entire game should be rebalanced rather than just adjusting the one thing? Glad you're not my boss lol

The day the revised werewolf came out there were threads immediately calling for it to be nerfed. Same with the DK, despite the devs explaining what was going on with the DK. Same as with the Assassination skill line when subclassing hit

If you want to pretend this isn't what happens every single time one class or build rises to the top, that's your choice. But spare us the sanctimony while doing it.

The problem is the things rising to the top are not just a little better than everything else in most applications, they are EXTREMELY better at EVERYTHING else in ALL applications.

In other words, they are ruining it for anyone who doesn't play them. Then you have people flocking to those classes to play the OP stuff that beats everything, but most people are pretty buns at the game and act like this new OP stuff isn't OP and that everyone just complains etc etc...

If Zos had not come out with some of these balance changes around dk, sorc, and WW I was literally going to quit playing the game because the game was no longer fun because it was an uneven playing ground and all I do is pvp

XVestigeXx wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

ketsparrowhawk wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Its almost like perpetually begging for nerfs has adverse consequences that are entirely foreseeable and gradually make the PVP experience worse for everyone.

I don't think I will ever understand the "never nerf" mentality. If one thing is too strong the entire game should be rebalanced rather than just adjusting the one thing? Glad you're not my boss lol

The day the revised werewolf came out there were threads immediately calling for it to be nerfed. Same with the DK, despite the devs explaining what was going on with the DK. Same as with the Assassination skill line when subclassing hit

If you want to pretend this isn't what happens every single time one class or build rises to the top, that's your choice. But spare us the sanctimony while doing it.

The problem is the things rising to the top are not just a little better than everything else in most applications, they are EXTREMELY better at EVERYTHING else in ALL applications.

In other words, they are ruining it for anyone who doesn't play them. Then you have people flocking to those classes to play the OP stuff that beats everything, but most people are pretty buns at the game and act like this new OP stuff isn't OP and that everyone just complains etc etc...

If Zos had not come out with some of these balance changes around dk, sorc, and WW I was literally going to quit playing the game because the game was no longer fun because it was an uneven playing ground and all I do is pvp

Dude, people once claimed Way of Fire was OP.

What is always lost on these threads is that nerfing something makes something else OP. Even long-dead 10 year old garbage sets like Way of Fire when you tear everything else down around it.

Players complaining about the DK today have NO IDEA what the DK could do years ago with sets like Zaan and Elf Bane. Or what Werewolf could do with Crimson Oath. Or what Sorcs could do with Fury or 7th Legion. Why? Because all of those things were nerfed using the same arguments over and over and over again.

The best part? The "nerf everything" crowd is also the first to complain about the "lack of diversity" in PVP. Hmm, I wonder if the two are related. Nah, we should just keep demanding nerfs any time something is made stronger. After all, its worked so well up to this point...

If only someone would point out the absurdity of demanding that all PVP builds, except their build, get nerfed