I don't want this Enlightened bonus

Glorious_Platypus · August 22

Yeah so for this I did do a google search lol. Apparently what this means is that I earn 4x more champion point experience. Which is really dumb because Champion Points have a cap and I don't want to hit it super fast or something.

Like listen lol, I'm already CP 100 (just hit 100 yesterday) and I've done hardly anything on that character. Like some daily crafting writs for 2 or 3 months, and questing every now and then. And I'm ALREADY at level 100? Technically 150 if you count the base game levels.

And the cap is only what, like, what was it, 3000? It's only going to take a year for me to get to the max at this rate.

And then after that all the "feeling" of progression on my account will be over, or a significant part of it.

ItsNotLiving · August 22

You really want to get to 160 to use max level gear.

NovelliESO · August 22

Glorious_Platypus wrote: »

Yeah so for this I did do a google search lol. Apparently what this means is that I earn 4x more champion point experience. Which is really dumb because Champion Points have a cap and I don't want to hit it super fast or something.

Like listen lol, I'm already CP 100 (just hit 100 yesterday) and I've done hardly anything on that character. Like some daily crafting writs for 2 or 3 months, and questing every now and then. And I'm ALREADY at level 100? Technically 150 if you count the base game levels.

And the cap is only what, like, what was it, 3000? It's only going to take a year for me to get to the max at this rate.

And then after that all the "feeling" of progression on my account will be over, or a significant part of it.

You aren't going to hit 3600 fast, it takes much more to earn later levels.

virtus753 · August 22

The effective CP cap is 3600. You will not reach it in a year due to enlightenment alone. Enlightenment is a fixed number (400k per day, iirc, up to a maximum of 12m if not used). That means it covers multiple CP at the beginning but only a fraction of one CP as you reach higher CP.

The XP curve is not linear, so using your current pace will give wildly inaccurate projections. You will not go from CP 2110-2200 nearly as quickly as you went from CP 10-100. There are people who have been playing regularly for years who are not near 3600.

tomofhyrule · August 22

Out of curiosity, how many CP3600 players have you seen in game? That would give you an indicator how how quickly you can reach that cap - and they're the ones grinding XP and using every XP buff there is.

I get it, I don't like grinding either and I'd prefer levelling slowly. But I'm just about to hit 3000 with minimal grinding after playing since 2019. If you're not going out of your way to grind, you're not hitting that cap anytime soon.

Glorious_Platypus · August 22

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Out of curiosity, how many CP3600 players have you seen in game? That would give you an indicator how how quickly you can reach that cap - and they're the ones grinding XP and using every XP buff there is.

I get it, I don't like grinding either and I'd prefer levelling slowly. But I'm just about to hit 3000 with minimal grinding after playing since 2019. If you're not going out of your way to grind, you're not hitting that cap anytime soon.

I don't know how to check. I see a player all I see is their name really.

NovelliESO · August 22

Glorious_Platypus wrote: »

tomofhyrule wrote: »

Out of curiosity, how many CP3600 players have you seen in game? That would give you an indicator how how quickly you can reach that cap - and they're the ones grinding XP and using every XP buff there is.

I get it, I don't like grinding either and I'd prefer levelling slowly. But I'm just about to hit 3000 with minimal grinding after playing since 2019. If you're not going out of your way to grind, you're not hitting that cap anytime soon.

I don't know how to check. I see a player all I see is their name really.

The first 40 CP you get in ESO takes less exp than a single CP once you hit 3,300. So, more than 40x slower. You will be fine.

Its_MySniff · August 22

You won't reach 3600 in this decade. It took me over eight years. The higher cp you get, it takes more points to get to that next level. It will slow down to a crawl unless you run multiple characters and do writ after writ.

freespirit · August 22

Playing since release but never really focus on levelling fast.

I do what I fancy doing and I'm only at CP2700-ish

First 1k rack up fairly fast, after 2k it really is at a snails pace, you have absolutely no need to worry!

BretonMage · August 22

As others have said, progress will slow as you level up. I've been playing for 8 years and am still in my 2000s. But I agree with you that hitting max level is something I personally feel like I should avoid.

HatchetHaro · August 22

I have about 17,000 hours in this game. I'm still under CP 3200.

You'll be fine.

Glorious_Platypus · August 22

Its_MySniff wrote: »

You won't reach 3600 in this decade. It took me over eight years. The higher cp you get, it takes more points to get to that next level. It will slow down to a crawl unless you run multiple characters and do writ after writ.

I play multiple characters and currently considering adding another to the list of* Regulars since I don't have a thief character. Well I have a thief character just not one I'm happy with anymore so I gotta brainstorm up a cool new name for them.

And then also classes I haven't played yet like templar or arcanist. Same deal just haven't come up with their names. When I rush naming process I end up not liking their name later and deleting them

SilverIce58 · August 22

Honestly youre basically kind of set once you get to like 1600 cp. You'll definitely need more for all the passives in green, but for blue and red its enough for all 4 actives, and basically all the passives in each blue and red tree respectively.

Trier_Sero · August 22

Im in 2500s and 1cp costs over 900k xp, so over 2 days worth of enlightenment. My second account recently hit 1600cp and im really starting to feel slow down. So im guessing steep curve starts somewhere there.

ESO_player123 · August 22

"Glorious_Platypus wrote: »

Like listen lol, I'm already CP 100 (just hit 100 yesterday) and I've done hardly anything on that character. Like some daily crafting writs for 2 or 3 months, and questing every now and then. And I'm ALREADY at level 100?

After you hit level 50 on one character and start earming CPs, any other new characters on the same account will get those CP points and can use them from the moment of creation.

For example, I have around 3100 CP (I do not remember the exact number). If I create a new character, I can assign and use all of those CP points immediately after creating it at level 1. I'm still level 1 and need to level to 50, but I can use all of the same perks as my other characters.

Once this new character hits level 50, my level on this character will immediately jump to 3100 CP to match the level of the highest character I have.

Edit: and you do not need to worry about the Enlightened bonus. It will take years to get to 3600.

virtus753 · August 22

Trier_Sero wrote: »

Im in 2500s and 1cp costs over 900k xp, so over 2 days worth of enlightenment. My second account recently hit 1600cp and im really starting to feel slow down. So im guessing steep curve starts somewhere there.

I believe this is what went live with CP 2.0:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/562036/pts-6-3-3-xp-curve-graphed

Arunei · August 22

Glorious_Platypus wrote: »

Its_MySniff wrote: »

You won't reach 3600 in this decade. It took me over eight years. The higher cp you get, it takes more points to get to that next level. It will slow down to a crawl unless you run multiple characters and do writ after writ.

I play multiple characters and currently considering adding another to the list of* Regulars since I don't have a thief character. Well I have a thief character just not one I'm happy with anymore so I gotta brainstorm up a cool new name for them.

And then also classes I haven't played yet like templar or arcanist. Same deal just haven't come up with their names. When I rush naming process I end up not liking their name later and deleting them

This doesn't matter, trust me. I've been playing since the VR system was converted to CP and I'm not even at 1.9k yet, and I've also played multiple characters doing multiple things. Even if you have a full 20 characters and you do stuff on all of them, you're getting the same amount of CP as playing only a single character, because CP and the exp to get them are account based, not character based.

Glorious_Platypus · August 22

Arunei wrote: »

This doesn't matter, trust me. I've been playing since the VR system was converted to CP and I'm not even at 1.9k yet, and I've also played multiple characters doing multiple things. Even if you have a full 20 characters and you do stuff on all of them, you're getting the same amount of CP as playing only a single character, because CP and the exp to get them are account based, not character based.

This is good news to me thnx

Glorious_Platypus · August 22

@ESO_player123 you bolded the part where I said I hardly did anything on that character but I really haven't lol. I haven't even done the main story line campaign. I've 100%'d Summerset on her and finished the Glenumbra zone story, that's literally it, but she was my first 50 and started getting CP points after that lol.

I guess it's more like- why am I champion if I haven't done anything yet. I'm not actually a champion but the game arbitrarily says I am one with this system.

Its_MySniff · August 22

Arunei wrote: »

Glorious_Platypus wrote: »

Its_MySniff wrote: »

You won't reach 3600 in this decade. It took me over eight years. The higher cp you get, it takes more points to get to that next level. It will slow down to a crawl unless you run multiple characters and do writ after writ.

I play multiple characters and currently considering adding another to the list of* Regulars since I don't have a thief character. Well I have a thief character just not one I'm happy with anymore so I gotta brainstorm up a cool new name for them.

And then also classes I haven't played yet like templar or arcanist. Same deal just haven't come up with their names. When I rush naming process I end up not liking their name later and deleting them

This doesn't matter, trust me. I've been playing since the VR system was converted to CP and I'm not even at 1.9k yet, and I've also played multiple characters doing multiple things. Even if you have a full 20 characters and you do stuff on all of them, you're getting the same amount of CP as playing only a single character, because CP and the exp to get them are account based, not character based.

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying. If you run one character and do a random daily dungeon you get 100k xp, 10 characters get a million added all together. How is that the same amount? Multiple characters will always get more xp than one depending on the activity. I apologize if I didn't understand you. Cheers.

ESO_player123 · August 22

Glorious_Platypus wrote: »

@ESO_player123 you bolded the part where I said I hardly did anything on that character but I really haven't lol. I haven't even done the main story line campaign. I've 100%'d Summerset on her and finished the Glenumbra zone story, that's literally it, but she was my first 50 and started getting CP points after that lol.

I guess it's more like- why am I champion if I haven't done anything yet. I'm not actually a champion but the game arbitrarily says I am one with this system.

The "Champion" in the champion CP system has nothing to do with you being the "Champion" in the game. For that we have achievements (Saviour of this, Hero of that, Vanquisher of something or other, etc). The point is level 100 is basically nothing. I'm honestly not trying to diminish your progression here, just pointing out that this is just the beginning of a long (and hopefully promising) road.

Arunei · August 22

Its_MySniff wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

Glorious_Platypus wrote: »

Its_MySniff wrote: »

You won't reach 3600 in this decade. It took me over eight years. The higher cp you get, it takes more points to get to that next level. It will slow down to a crawl unless you run multiple characters and do writ after writ.

I play multiple characters and currently considering adding another to the list of* Regulars since I don't have a thief character. Well I have a thief character just not one I'm happy with anymore so I gotta brainstorm up a cool new name for them.

And then also classes I haven't played yet like templar or arcanist. Same deal just haven't come up with their names. When I rush naming process I end up not liking their name later and deleting them

This doesn't matter, trust me. I've been playing since the VR system was converted to CP and I'm not even at 1.9k yet, and I've also played multiple characters doing multiple things. Even if you have a full 20 characters and you do stuff on all of them, you're getting the same amount of CP as playing only a single character, because CP and the exp to get them are account based, not character based.

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying. If you run one character and do a random daily dungeon you get 100k xp, 10 characters get a million added all together. How is that the same amount? Multiple characters will always get more xp than one depending on the activity. I apologize if I didn't understand you. Cheers.

There's a cap to Enlightenment, it builds up to that cap as long as it's not being used (so like if you don't play for a few days, or play strictly any sub50 characters to level them and don't touch and CP characters you have, for example). However, as you play CP characters, the Enlightenment pool is spread between them until it runs out, at which point you earn exp at the normal rate.

Because Enlightenment is account bound, even playing only 1 CP character a bunch or playing 20 CP characters depending on who you're feeling means you're spending your Enlightenment at the same rate. If you have 400k Enlightenment and do a Daily Random Dungeon and spend 100k but then spend the other 300k doing something like Master Writs (they give a bunch of exp), it's the same as doing Random Dungeons on four characters to spend the 400k. After that 400k is spent you get exp at the normal rate.

It's not about getting more exp in general, it's strictly about the Enlightenment being spent. Playing one CP character or playing a bunch of CP characters will still be splitting the Enlightenment pool. OP was, I assumed, worried about each character having their own Enlightenment pool and thus getting a lot more CP than someone with only one or two characters.

You can think of Enlightenment like a bank account. If you have 300 dollars, one person spending 300 is the same as three people spending 100. After that you can't spend anything else until there's more money in the bank.

Its_MySniff · August 22

Arunei wrote: »

Its_MySniff wrote: »

Arunei wrote: »

Glorious_Platypus wrote: »

Its_MySniff wrote: »

You won't reach 3600 in this decade. It took me over eight years. The higher cp you get, it takes more points to get to that next level. It will slow down to a crawl unless you run multiple characters and do writ after writ.

I play multiple characters and currently considering adding another to the list of* Regulars since I don't have a thief character. Well I have a thief character just not one I'm happy with anymore so I gotta brainstorm up a cool new name for them.

And then also classes I haven't played yet like templar or arcanist. Same deal just haven't come up with their names. When I rush naming process I end up not liking their name later and deleting them

This doesn't matter, trust me. I've been playing since the VR system was converted to CP and I'm not even at 1.9k yet, and I've also played multiple characters doing multiple things. Even if you have a full 20 characters and you do stuff on all of them, you're getting the same amount of CP as playing only a single character, because CP and the exp to get them are account based, not character based.

I might be misunderstanding what you are saying. If you run one character and do a random daily dungeon you get 100k xp, 10 characters get a million added all together. How is that the same amount? Multiple characters will always get more xp than one depending on the activity. I apologize if I didn't understand you. Cheers.

There's a cap to Enlightenment, it builds up to that cap as long as it's not being used (so like if you don't play for a few days, or play strictly any sub50 characters to level them and don't touch and CP characters you have, for example). However, as you play CP characters, the Enlightenment pool is spread between them until it runs out, at which point you earn exp at the normal rate.

Because Enlightenment is account bound, even playing only 1 CP character a bunch or playing 20 CP characters depending on who you're feeling means you're spending your Enlightenment at the same rate. If you have 400k Enlightenment and do a Daily Random Dungeon and spend 100k but then spend the other 300k doing something like Master Writs (they give a bunch of exp), it's the same as doing Random Dungeons on four characters to spend the 400k. After that 400k is spent you get exp at the normal rate.

You can think of Enlightenment like a bank account. If you have 300 dollars, one person spending 300 is the same as three people spending 100. After that you can't spend anything else until there's more money in the bank.

I understand that. I just wanted to point out the random daily dungeons in case that activity was overlooked. It's time consuming but a good way to use those extra characters because that activity is per character not account. Sorry for the confusion. Thank you for explaining that.

Trier_Sero · August 22

virtus753 wrote: »

Trier_Sero wrote: »

Im in 2500s and 1cp costs over 900k xp, so over 2 days worth of enlightenment. My second account recently hit 1600cp and im really starting to feel slow down. So im guessing steep curve starts somewhere there.

I believe this is what went live with CP 2.0:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/562036/pts-6-3-3-xp-curve-graphed

I couldn't get original picture but if I got it right last couple hundred cps will cost over 2mln xp each. That means unless I actively grind for xp it'll probably take me over a decade to max out.

dubq77 · August 22

What a bizarre and out of touch take w/r/t this game. You really have no idea how long it takes to get to 3600.

ESO_player123 · August 22

To get the idea of how much XP you need to earn to get to the next CP level you can look at the screenshot below and then hover over the same progress bar on your toon and compare the results:

YffresTrill · August 22

I am at CP 2300-something and I average about one CP a day playing regularly. This is after 7 years of fairly active play (with some extended breaks) on this server. Some days I play a few hours and don't even manage a single CP. Of course, certain activities are more XP-intensive than others, but unless you are actively grinding, you will not be anywhere near the max for a very, very long time.

Edit to add: This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I wish it was not quite so easy to hit level 50. I used to enjoy the experience of levelling a new character, but now it feels far too quick. My very first character, right after the game came out, hit level 50 near the end of the Coldharbour zone, after fully clearing all my alliance zones and the main quest besides. Now, if I level a new character purely through questing, I am at max level by the second or third zone. It just feels so... underwhelming and unsatisfying. The character progression doesn't feel like it's quite there in the same way.

AllenaNightWood · August 22

enlightenment means nothing as you get higher up into the thousands

Ei8htba11 · 12:18AM

You're in no danger of hitting CP cap 'super fast'..

Arunei · 1:22AM

dubq77 wrote: »

What a bizarre and out of touch take w/r/t this game. You really have no idea how long it takes to get to 3600.

Kind of a rude take. Clearly OP didn't realize how earning CP works in terms of speed. People who've never reached CP and gained a significant amount don't. Pointing out people "have no idea" of something when that's the whole reason they're making a topic doesn't really accomplish anything other than, again, being kind of rude.

BahometZ · 7:41AM

Well some newbie coming in hot on a topic they don't understand is bound to get one or two harsh responses.
"Lol what is this dumb thing, I don't need it." It's a fundamental aspect of the game that will make the game experience richer over time.

Its okay not to know things, instead of complaining about a non-issue there's a way to ask questions.