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PTS week 2, still no mention of any DK changes?
BioBitter100
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As it stands right now DK will not get any significant adjustments next patch, besides Pyrebrand being slightly buffed(lol?). I can only speak for myself but as a PvP only player I don´t think I can keep playing if this goes live. The last few months were more than enough of this heavily unbalanced meta and I can´t stand it anymore.
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CatalinaWineMixer2✭✭✭✭✭And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!8 -
XVestigeXx✭✭✭CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!
If you think dk is fine and a good point for all classes to be at then you are out of your gourd. For example, Dk has infinite sustain through their passives and core of flame. This is a game breaking problem. Sustain should mean something. I do not want to see every class trivialize the core combat mechanics and pillars of buildcrafting. This is just one part of what is wrong with dk7 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭XVestigeXx wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!
If you think dk is fine and a good point for all classes to be at then you are out of your gourd. For example, Dk has infinite sustain through their passives and core of flame. This is a game breaking problem. Sustain should mean something. I do not want to see every class trivialize the core combat mechanics and pillars of buildcrafting. This is just one part of what is wrong with dk
Sustain is an anachronism from a different game.Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.0 -
LadyGP✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If they truly are going to wait till 2027 to do the rest of the rework... the current state of pvp.... they are burning players and they are so slow to respond to these issues...
(flips table and throws everything)
When is ES6 coming out? Oh yeah... another 3+ years.
- xCatguyLadyGP/xCatGuy
PC/NA
Having network issues? Discconects? DM me and I will help you troubleshoot with PingPlotter to figure out what is going on.0 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!
If you think dk is fine and a good point for all classes to be at then you are out of your gourd. For example, Dk has infinite sustain through their passives and core of flame. This is a game breaking problem. Sustain should mean something. I do not want to see every class trivialize the core combat mechanics and pillars of buildcrafting. This is just one part of what is wrong with dk
Sustain is an anachronism from a different game.
So infinite sustain is just okay to you?0 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!
If you think dk is fine and a good point for all classes to be at then you are out of your gourd. For example, Dk has infinite sustain through their passives and core of flame. This is a game breaking problem. Sustain should mean something. I do not want to see every class trivialize the core combat mechanics and pillars of buildcrafting. This is just one part of what is wrong with dk
Sustain is an anachronism from a different game.
So infinite sustain is just okay to you?
YesRest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.1 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!
If you think dk is fine and a good point for all classes to be at then you are out of your gourd. For example, Dk has infinite sustain through their passives and core of flame. This is a game breaking problem. Sustain should mean something. I do not want to see every class trivialize the core combat mechanics and pillars of buildcrafting. This is just one part of what is wrong with dk
Sustain is an anachronism from a different game.
So infinite sustain is just okay to you?
Yes
Average "DK doesn't need to be nerfed" player.
The signature is just an added bonus:
Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-20254 -
Adrastus✭✭✭i prefer this meta over the invisible nb gank years held meta where dudes would just burst and stealth and if caught up, have high mobility/speed to dodge roll infinitely etc. as crazy as it sounds, this prob a lot less toxic in the eyes of new pvpers too.
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Luneca✭✭✭✭✭i prefer this meta over the invisible nb gank years held meta where dudes would just burst and stealth and if caught up, have high mobility/speed to dodge roll infinitely etc. as crazy as it sounds, this prob a lot less toxic in the eyes of new pvpers too.
wait for the buffs or uninstall, srs
Or we can keep speaking about it on a forum.1 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!
If you think dk is fine and a good point for all classes to be at then you are out of your gourd. For example, Dk has infinite sustain through their passives and core of flame. This is a game breaking problem. Sustain should mean something. I do not want to see every class trivialize the core combat mechanics and pillars of buildcrafting. This is just one part of what is wrong with dk
Sustain is an anachronism from a different game.
So infinite sustain is just okay to you?
Yes
Average "DK doesn't need to be nerfed" player.
The signature is just an added bonus:
Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
It's funny that you quote that over and over like it's an own, but by your own standard, if DK went back to pre-class refresh, something that I would enjoy, then that would be a nerf. That this idea has never crossed your mind is suspicious.Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.1 -
NovelliESO✭✭✭✭Personofsecrets wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!
If you think dk is fine and a good point for all classes to be at then you are out of your gourd. For example, Dk has infinite sustain through their passives and core of flame. This is a game breaking problem. Sustain should mean something. I do not want to see every class trivialize the core combat mechanics and pillars of buildcrafting. This is just one part of what is wrong with dk
Sustain is an anachronism from a different game.
So infinite sustain is just okay to you?
Yes
Average "DK doesn't need to be nerfed" player.
The signature is just an added bonus:
Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
It's funny that you quote that over and over like it's an own, but by your own standard, if DK went back to pre-class refresh, something that I would enjoy, then that would be a nerf. That this idea has never crossed your mind is suspicious.
[snip] You are so out of your depth you think infinite sustain is fine. [snip]
[edited for baiting]Edited by ZOS_Icy on 11 August 2026 10:303 -
Luneca✭✭✭✭✭NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »NovelliESO wrote: »Personofsecrets wrote: »XVestigeXx wrote: »CatalinaWineMixer2 wrote: »And yet you endured over a year of the Green Beam? And Warden Charm? The DK is fine, it needs to be left alone. One of two things need to happen immediately. Not years from now.
1. Remove the broken cherry picking Subclassing system that put us here in the first place
2. Complete all of the reworks IMMEDIATELY
Nothing is wrong with the DK. Or WW. The rest of the Classes are THAT BAD. Stop nerfing our characters! Everyone is tired of the same excuse, "I died, everyone else needs nerfed. Just not me." It's absolutely ridiculous. People are not going to entertain 10 more years of this.
End Subclassing now. Restore the DK to the rest of the game with 3 skill lines, Healer, Tank, Dps. Use the Class Mastery Passives to balance the power level of the other 6 to the DK. Tomorrow! Not years from now like the ficticious path we are on! Then, make more Classes. This Subclassing insanity has gone on long enough. @Zos You are killing our Guilds because you refuse to eliminate and/or gut Subclassing! Wake up!
If you think dk is fine and a good point for all classes to be at then you are out of your gourd. For example, Dk has infinite sustain through their passives and core of flame. This is a game breaking problem. Sustain should mean something. I do not want to see every class trivialize the core combat mechanics and pillars of buildcrafting. This is just one part of what is wrong with dk
Sustain is an anachronism from a different game.
So infinite sustain is just okay to you?
Yes
Average "DK doesn't need to be nerfed" player.
The signature is just an added bonus:
Rest in Peace:
The Dragonknight
2014-2025
It's funny that you quote that over and over like it's an own, but by your own standard, if DK went back to pre-class refresh, something that I would enjoy, then that would be a nerf. That this idea has never crossed your mind is suspicious.
[snip] You are so out of your depth you think infinite sustain is fine. [snip]
The goal of these DKs defending the class is to post a bunch of bait, get people to engage, and make the thread long so it gets closed or wastes dev time and they don't bother reading it or taking the input seriously. It's such a boring play.
The sad part is that most of these players defending what's broken on the forums are always the least memorable encounters IMO. No serious PvPer only wants to win no matter what; they want the possibility to lose because it's that possibility that makes the experience of triumph being worth it. I don't want to whip someone for nearly 30K in a tank build with over 38K HP while they damage me for 500-800 damage or less.
But then there's the type that only care about winning no matter what. The types that need to punch down. That need every advantage and delude themselves into thinking that the game is fair, balanced, and skillful in its current state. The types that pretend ESO is a fighting game like Street Fighter or Tekken. The types that you would never find in either of those games because they cannot dominate there, but need to dominate here and then claim that "builds are a skill too" even when it completely carries them.
And the best part is when they still lose anyway, they find excuses. But when they win it's fair. It's hard to take the PvP community in this game seriously when this is the case. On the forums these types will post bait and derail all the time so you get moderated.
I generally just cut the back and forth and if they are in game and on the opposing side, they know what's coming. I'm going to fire siege. Hard.
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on 11 August 2026 10:323 -
CannedChicken✭✭✭Infinite sustain and absurd burst clearly aren’t things the devs want in pvp. They just haven’t addressed every source of it yet.
WW already took significant sustain nerfs on the PTS, and ganking was heavily targeted as well. Somehow, though, DK seems to have been left off the radar.
At this point it feels like the devs forgot DK exists.Edited by CannedChicken on 11 August 2026 12:230