I can't take it

RebornV3x · August 3

I refuse to sit through AT LEAST 7 more months of this DK, Werewolf meta for PVP I tried to stay positive but these class refreshes needed to be #1 priority I would rather not have another event or any new content from now until next year. its unacceptable to refresh only DK and WW and leave the other classes like this.

Luneca · August 3

Don't think anyone can really take it except the people that are playing those "classes". All that will happen is less people will play and the players that continuously defend their broken classes will have no one to play with besides themselves.

I'm already skipping Midyear Mayhem. Mainly because it's pointless, the queue will be huge, and it will definitely just have more people stacking meta garbage. And I'm not logging into Vegneace. Ever.

ZOS won't adjust any of those 3 classes or even the mythics that make them overpowered and oppressive because they consider powercreep to be "content" now. Really a sad situation all around, but that's exactly why less and less of my friends log in daily.

But watch some guy on the forums complain that I mentioned WW, DK, and sorc. Literally cannot make it up how unhinged the forums have become since the cuts. It's the face of an overall declining game.

Friendly-assasin81 · August 5

You playing on NA or EU? Greyhost or Blackreach?

I play Nightblade and DK almost every night on EU greyhost.
I kill ww, dks, sorcs, wardens aso and get killed by those also.
I don't see a problem. There are "special" players in every classes though. Tower trolls, ball groups aso are some times stronger than they should be no matter the class and build(specials).
Im not calling anyone cheater but some are fishy.
I have a kill/death of around 55/10 every night and i only play in guild group going for keeps, resources and outposts with sieges.

During mayhem there will be bigger queues but the players joining will be cannon fodder. At least on EU Greyhost.

Usureki · August 5

I absolutely agree with OP. Even though I've advocated remaining positive after the panic from the layoffs, seeing that we're kinda stuck with this DK/WW/Sorc meta for approx. years made me log in and play fifth as much as I've used to.

Friendly-assasin81 · August 5

Usureki wrote: »

I absolutely agree with OP. Even though I've advocated remaining positive after the panic from the layoffs, seeing that we're kinda stuck with this DK/WW/Sorc meta for approx. years made me log in and play fifth as much as I've used to.

Around 2 years ago, sorc was the meta. Around 1 year ago, warden was the meta. This will always change, but you can still use whatever you like and be good in cyrodiil.

Oblivion_Protocol · August 7

Friendly-assasin81 wrote: »

Around 2 years ago, sorc was the meta. Around 1 year ago, warden was the meta. This will always change, but you can still use whatever you like and be good in cyrodiil.

Spend a day in Cyro on a pure class Arcanist or Templar, then come back and tell us that you can use whatever you like and still be good, lol.

Divine1976 · August 7

Friendly-assasin81 wrote: »

You playing on NA or EU? Greyhost or Blackreach?

I play Nightblade and DK almost every night on EU greyhost.
I kill ww, dks, sorcs, wardens aso and get killed by those also.
I don't see a problem. There are "special" players in every classes though. Tower trolls, ball groups aso are some times stronger than they should be no matter the class and build(specials).
Im not calling anyone cheater but some are fishy.
I have a kill/death of around 55/10 every night and i only play in guild group going for keeps, resources and outposts with sieges.

During mayhem there will be bigger queues but the players joining will be cannon fodder. At least on EU Greyhost.

Only play in a guild group? try doing it solo..

Nihilr · August 8

It's funny because my husband finally found a way to not melt to the DK's and WW's, but the rubberbanding has gotten so bad for the last 6-8 months that it persists through:
1.) (Disabling all Add-ons), this used to be the main problem.
2.) Disabling graphics like particles and decreasing view distance and disabling the "effects that aren't from your character" setting-- (This doesn't change ping, still above 200fps in heavy combat)
3.) A Dallas-based VPN, this used to help regulate the packet efficiency path, and now doesn't help.

Cyrodiil PvP is dead to him, until he sees a fix.
Vengeance? Not as problematic, but the last update to include sets seemed to affect ping/packet performance slightly (anecdotal, sure). And fluctuating/adaptive population caps would make Vengeance less "zerg" happy.

Anyway, goodluck.

reazea · August 8

RebornV3x wrote: »

I refuse to sit through AT LEAST 7 more months of this DK, Werewolf meta for PVP I tried to stay positive but these class refreshes needed to be #1 priority I would rather not have another event or any new content from now until next year. its unacceptable to refresh only DK and WW and leave the other classes like this.

I hope there are seven more months of ESO AT LEAST. Far worse problems right now than balance.

Sephyr · August 8

I'm honestly in the same boat. I've just kinda called it and ended up going to other games because at this point the enjoyment I've had through the brief renaissance left with the layoffs.

LadyGP · August 9

To be fair... I've mained DK since beta so... don't throw hate my way.

Firstmep · August 9

I really hope class masteries will get a second pass soon, to bring classes closer together.
I don't think there's any other short term solution to the current meta, everything else would require a massive balancing pass and I don't think the team is going to do that.

Alchimiste1 · August 9

Friendly-assasin81 wrote: »

Usureki wrote: »

I absolutely agree with OP. Even though I've advocated remaining positive after the panic from the layoffs, seeing that we're kinda stuck with this DK/WW/Sorc meta for approx. years made me log in and play fifth as much as I've used to.

Around 2 years ago, sorc was the meta. Around 1 year ago, warden was the meta. This will always change, but you can still use whatever you like and be good in cyrodiil.

Nah, the power difference between dk/ww/sorc and anything else is much bigger than the power balance between a meta class any everything else in prior patches.

The last time I played it felt like I could honestly easily die to a much worse player than I because they were on a dk and I was not. I never got that feeling in the past. You could always make up the gap in class power balance if you were skilled enough. Not this patch. I saw no win condition, but I did see a possible death if I messed up.

Firstmep · August 9

Alchimiste1 wrote: »

Friendly-assasin81 wrote: »

Usureki wrote: »

I absolutely agree with OP. Even though I've advocated remaining positive after the panic from the layoffs, seeing that we're kinda stuck with this DK/WW/Sorc meta for approx. years made me log in and play fifth as much as I've used to.

Around 2 years ago, sorc was the meta. Around 1 year ago, warden was the meta. This will always change, but you can still use whatever you like and be good in cyrodiil.

Nah, the power difference between dk/ww/sorc and anything else is much bigger than the power balance between a meta class any everything else in prior patches.

The last time I played it felt like I could honestly easily die to a much worse player than I because they were on a dk and I was not. I never got that feeling in the past. You could always make up the gap in class power balance if you were skilled enough. Not this patch. I saw no win condition, but I did see a possible death if I messed up.

I can still kill bad dks on other classes and at least stalemate decent/good ones, but it is an uphill battle. It's more so that the room for error on the meta classes is much higher rn.