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OMG! ZOS made another change that doesn't appear in the patch notes
JustLovely
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I can't believe it. ZOS changed the icon they use for cheese without mentioning it in the patch notes!
Seriously though, my point is that not every change ZOS makes needs to be mentioned in the patch notes.
Seriously though, my point is that not every change ZOS makes needs to be mentioned in the patch notes.
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✭✭✭I felt like after U50 the cheese icon looked… different. Glad I’m not losing my mind. LOLPS5 NA. GM of The PTK's - a free trading guild (CP 500+). Also a werewolf, bites are free when they're available. PSN = DragonRacer134 -
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✭✭✭This is a travesty!!!!-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
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✭✭✭Just checked. It's lovely. Also found out I have 11K of those. Never bought a single one.Edited by ESO_player123 on 30 June 2026 02:210 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It wasn't ZoS...... this stinks of Uncle Sheo!
BEWARE, his power is on the rise, lock up your cheese!!When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
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Askianna✭freespirit wrote: »It wasn't ZoS...... this stinks of Uncle Sheo!
BEWARE, his power is on the rise, lock up your cheese!!
PROTECT THE INNOCENT CHEESE FROM THIS VILE SERVITUDE!1 -
Bguk✭✭✭✭That's it, I'm stopping my sub until this change is reverted!!!1!!1!!!11!!
And yet another example of poor communication!!!!!&!&^*&!! THIS SHALL NOT STAND!@!!!!2 -
VinnyGambini✭✭✭✭This is not the first time where ZOS is not transparent. Aetheric lancer duration was increased from 6s to 10s (this was in the patch notes). However it's cooldown was also reduced from 6s to 3s (this was NOT mentioned).1
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virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VinnyGambini wrote: »This is not the first time where ZOS is not transparent. Aetheric lancer duration was increased from 6s to 10s (this was in the patch notes). However it's cooldown was also reduced from 6s to 3s (this was NOT mentioned).
I think cosmetic changes like a cheese icon are very different from gameplay changes like sets and skills.
To change a cheese icon in a way that makes people do a double take and possibly feel like they’re losing their minds is very on theme. I have no idea if the lack of a patch note was intentional, given ZOS’s long history of unintentionally unannounced changes, so that undermines some of the humor, but the cheese change itself was funny to me. I could find humor in it precisely because it doesn’t impact the actual functionality of anything. I got a kick out of it, figured it was possibly Sheo related, laughed regardless, and moved on.
When changes that impact functionality go unannounced, that means ZOS is not giving us the tools to play the game how we like, at least for those of us who like to be informed about what we’re doing. It undermines trust because we rely on the patch notes for information that impacts how we play. From what I can tell the vast majority of missed notes are unintentional, but that doesn’t change the impact. That’s not so funny to me. It’s frustrating.
That all is to say that I think there can be very limited circumstances in which unannounced changes are ok, but anything that impacts gameplay is not such a circumstance for me, and that’s where frustration about missed notes is coming from.Edited by virtus753 on 30 June 2026 16:103 -
JustLovely✭✭✭✭✭
✭VinnyGambini wrote: »This is not the first time where ZOS is not transparent. Aetheric lancer duration was increased from 6s to 10s (this was in the patch notes). However it's cooldown was also reduced from 6s to 3s (this was NOT mentioned).
I think cosmetic changes like a cheese icon are very different from gameplay changes like sets and skills.
To change a cheese icon in a way that makes people do a double take and possibly feel like they’re losing their minds is very on theme. I have no idea if the lack of a patch note was intentional, given ZOS’s long history of unintentionally unannounced changes, so that undermines some of the humor, but the cheese change itself was funny to me. I could find humor in it precisely because it doesn’t impact the actual functionality of anything. I got a kick out of it, figured it was possibly Sheo related, laughed regardless, and moved on.
When changes that impact functionality go unannounced, that means ZOS is not giving us the tools to play the game how we like, at least for those of us who like to be informed about what we’re doing. It undermines trust because we rely on the patch notes for information that impacts how we play. From what I can tell the vast majority of missed notes are unintentional, but that doesn’t change the impact. That’s not so funny to me. It’s frustrating.
That all is to say that I think there can be very limited circumstances in which unannounced changes are ok, but anything that impacts gameplay is not such a circumstance for me, and that’s where frustration about missed notes is coming from.
Agreed. I just thought this one change was comical and probably Sheo related somehow. But certainly any changes that would change how we make builds, use our skills, etc, should all be in the patch notes. Just thought people could have a little fun with this one particular change.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭JustLovely wrote: »VinnyGambini wrote: »This is not the first time where ZOS is not transparent. Aetheric lancer duration was increased from 6s to 10s (this was in the patch notes). However it's cooldown was also reduced from 6s to 3s (this was NOT mentioned).
I think cosmetic changes like a cheese icon are very different from gameplay changes like sets and skills.
To change a cheese icon in a way that makes people do a double take and possibly feel like they’re losing their minds is very on theme. I have no idea if the lack of a patch note was intentional, given ZOS’s long history of unintentionally unannounced changes, so that undermines some of the humor, but the cheese change itself was funny to me. I could find humor in it precisely because it doesn’t impact the actual functionality of anything. I got a kick out of it, figured it was possibly Sheo related, laughed regardless, and moved on.
When changes that impact functionality go unannounced, that means ZOS is not giving us the tools to play the game how we like, at least for those of us who like to be informed about what we’re doing. It undermines trust because we rely on the patch notes for information that impacts how we play. From what I can tell the vast majority of missed notes are unintentional, but that doesn’t change the impact. That’s not so funny to me. It’s frustrating.
That all is to say that I think there can be very limited circumstances in which unannounced changes are ok, but anything that impacts gameplay is not such a circumstance for me, and that’s where frustration about missed notes is coming from.
Agreed. I just thought this one change was comical and probably Sheo related somehow. But certainly any changes that would change how we make builds, use our skills, etc, should all be in the patch notes. Just thought people could have a little fun with this one particular change.
I’m waiting to see if anyone in my guilds notices and says something. Most don’t read the forums, so hopefully they’ll get a nice surprise!0 -
ZOS_KevinCommunity Managerfreespirit wrote: »It wasn't ZoS...... this stinks of Uncle Sheo!
BEWARE, his power is on the rise, lock up your cheese!!
I like this excuse. I'm also blaming Uncle Sheo. Boo that prince!
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virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭freespirit wrote: »It wasn't ZoS...... this stinks of Uncle Sheo!
BEWARE, his power is on the rise, lock up your cheese!!
I like this excuse. I'm also blaming Uncle Sheo. Boo that prince!
Official answer accepted! Thanks for confirming
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Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
✭JustLovely wrote: »VinnyGambini wrote: »This is not the first time where ZOS is not transparent. Aetheric lancer duration was increased from 6s to 10s (this was in the patch notes). However it's cooldown was also reduced from 6s to 3s (this was NOT mentioned).
I think cosmetic changes like a cheese icon are very different from gameplay changes like sets and skills.
To change a cheese icon in a way that makes people do a double take and possibly feel like they’re losing their minds is very on theme. I have no idea if the lack of a patch note was intentional, given ZOS’s long history of unintentionally unannounced changes, so that undermines some of the humor, but the cheese change itself was funny to me. I could find humor in it precisely because it doesn’t impact the actual functionality of anything. I got a kick out of it, figured it was possibly Sheo related, laughed regardless, and moved on.
When changes that impact functionality go unannounced, that means ZOS is not giving us the tools to play the game how we like, at least for those of us who like to be informed about what we’re doing. It undermines trust because we rely on the patch notes for information that impacts how we play. From what I can tell the vast majority of missed notes are unintentional, but that doesn’t change the impact. That’s not so funny to me. It’s frustrating.
That all is to say that I think there can be very limited circumstances in which unannounced changes are ok, but anything that impacts gameplay is not such a circumstance for me, and that’s where frustration about missed notes is coming from.
Agreed. I just thought this one change was comical and probably Sheo related somehow. But certainly any changes that would change how we make builds, use our skills, etc, should all be in the patch notes. Just thought people could have a little fun with this one particular change.
I’m waiting to see if anyone in my guilds notices and says something. Most don’t read the forums, so hopefully they’ll get a nice surprise!
technically, the cheese icon was changed back when the werewolf update was released, so it's been out for a while now. I remember I noticed and made a comment on it to my friends back in the previous update the other week.2 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭JustLovely wrote: »VinnyGambini wrote: »This is not the first time where ZOS is not transparent. Aetheric lancer duration was increased from 6s to 10s (this was in the patch notes). However it's cooldown was also reduced from 6s to 3s (this was NOT mentioned).
I think cosmetic changes like a cheese icon are very different from gameplay changes like sets and skills.
To change a cheese icon in a way that makes people do a double take and possibly feel like they’re losing their minds is very on theme. I have no idea if the lack of a patch note was intentional, given ZOS’s long history of unintentionally unannounced changes, so that undermines some of the humor, but the cheese change itself was funny to me. I could find humor in it precisely because it doesn’t impact the actual functionality of anything. I got a kick out of it, figured it was possibly Sheo related, laughed regardless, and moved on.
When changes that impact functionality go unannounced, that means ZOS is not giving us the tools to play the game how we like, at least for those of us who like to be informed about what we’re doing. It undermines trust because we rely on the patch notes for information that impacts how we play. From what I can tell the vast majority of missed notes are unintentional, but that doesn’t change the impact. That’s not so funny to me. It’s frustrating.
That all is to say that I think there can be very limited circumstances in which unannounced changes are ok, but anything that impacts gameplay is not such a circumstance for me, and that’s where frustration about missed notes is coming from.
Agreed. I just thought this one change was comical and probably Sheo related somehow. But certainly any changes that would change how we make builds, use our skills, etc, should all be in the patch notes. Just thought people could have a little fun with this one particular change.
I’m waiting to see if anyone in my guilds notices and says something. Most don’t read the forums, so hopefully they’ll get a nice surprise!
technically, the cheese icon was changed back when the werewolf update was released, so it's been out for a while now. I remember I noticed and made a comment on it to my friends back in the previous update the other week.
Thanks! I think yesterday was the first time I looted cheese since U50, so that was the first occasion since that patch that I’d happened to see the icon. Don’t tell Sheo, but I just let it sit in the vacuum that is the craft bag and never actually look at it.2 -
Wolf_Eye✭✭✭✭✭
✭JustLovely wrote: »VinnyGambini wrote: »This is not the first time where ZOS is not transparent. Aetheric lancer duration was increased from 6s to 10s (this was in the patch notes). However it's cooldown was also reduced from 6s to 3s (this was NOT mentioned).
I think cosmetic changes like a cheese icon are very different from gameplay changes like sets and skills.
To change a cheese icon in a way that makes people do a double take and possibly feel like they’re losing their minds is very on theme. I have no idea if the lack of a patch note was intentional, given ZOS’s long history of unintentionally unannounced changes, so that undermines some of the humor, but the cheese change itself was funny to me. I could find humor in it precisely because it doesn’t impact the actual functionality of anything. I got a kick out of it, figured it was possibly Sheo related, laughed regardless, and moved on.
When changes that impact functionality go unannounced, that means ZOS is not giving us the tools to play the game how we like, at least for those of us who like to be informed about what we’re doing. It undermines trust because we rely on the patch notes for information that impacts how we play. From what I can tell the vast majority of missed notes are unintentional, but that doesn’t change the impact. That’s not so funny to me. It’s frustrating.
That all is to say that I think there can be very limited circumstances in which unannounced changes are ok, but anything that impacts gameplay is not such a circumstance for me, and that’s where frustration about missed notes is coming from.
Agreed. I just thought this one change was comical and probably Sheo related somehow. But certainly any changes that would change how we make builds, use our skills, etc, should all be in the patch notes. Just thought people could have a little fun with this one particular change.
I’m waiting to see if anyone in my guilds notices and says something. Most don’t read the forums, so hopefully they’ll get a nice surprise!
technically, the cheese icon was changed back when the werewolf update was released, so it's been out for a while now. I remember I noticed and made a comment on it to my friends back in the previous update the other week.
Thanks! I think yesterday was the first time I looted cheese since U50, so that was the first occasion since that patch that I’d happened to see the icon. Don’t tell Sheo, but I just let it sit in the vacuum that is the craft bag and never actually look at it.
Your secret is safe with me
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✭✭✭✭✭First the small game icon change and now this…where is this world coming to?
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