Tome points need some purpose beyond their current use.

JuicyJelly · June 28

Don't get me wrong I'm grateful for the season pass, more seals (if we calculate how much we would get in the same time with the previous system), few crown crates some style pages etc.
But you max out the tome pass super quick, I've started it mid way through the pass and im sitting on 10+k of tome points with 0 use for them so basically I'm not event bothering with the latest 2-3 weeks missions as there's no point in doing it. Sure the seals were slower but at least you kept doing dailies in order to farm them.
Zos shouldn't nerf the tome points in the future to artificially make it worth while, but they should add more stuff to buy with said points, maybe more direct tome to bar conversion as there are so many stuff that we can buy with bars that way we could get more stuff from the bar store. Sure I get it that we shouldn't be able to get everything all at once, but still zos should find some sort of a "reward" for people doing their dailies even after they maxed out their tomes.

BardokRedSnow · June 28

They'll probably never do this but, Seals. Doesn't even gotta be 1-1 lol I know thats not happening especially but, after unlocking every last item in the tome convert them to seals at whatever exchange rate they like, and I bet they'd see way more purchases.

After the 2k that carry over, same as the gold now does. Just Seals instead.

tsaescishoeshiner · June 28

They shouldn't have an additional purpose so that we can get a break from grinding them. That's the intention, and for me, as long as the free pass rewards are still similar to what daily rewards/endeavors gave, it's nice to take the last month off of doing them. It does feel weird having extra points, but adding a reward means adding an incentive/grind.

JHartEllis · June 28

I liked the idea of having tasks to do each week to tackle with friends. That quickly fell apart since completion was so fast.

This went from something I thought would be cool to stream each week to another system I don't even look at.

Something beyond the paltry 10g would have made this system so much more interesting.

Arunei · June 28

Yeah the 10:1 ratio is way too low. Something like 20:1 would have made it more worthwhile to keep doing Challenges so you could get a decent amount of Gold. Three things would make Tomes so much better:

*Make the claimer opt-in so it doesn't take stuff we don't want,
*Implement some sort of infinite purchase system (like making Consumables/Boxes/Currencies on the Bonus Pages either able to be bought over and over but perhaps at a ramping cost, or let them be bought say up to 10 times each),
*Drastically increase the conversion rate for people who'd prefer Gold instead

All of this would encourage people to keep engaging with the Tome system even after they've bought everything they wanted.

Treeshka · June 28

Repeatable claims would be good. There should be like bundles of items for each type of player. One for housing materials for example. One for tri-stat potions. Kind of like the repeatable reward for Veterancy system.

JuicyJelly · June 29

tsaescishoeshiner wrote: »

They shouldn't have an additional purpose so that we can get a break from grinding them. That's the intention, and for me, as long as the free pass rewards are still similar to what daily rewards/endeavors gave, it's nice to take the last month off of doing them. It does feel weird having extra points, but adding a reward means adding an incentive/grind.

i mean that's the whole mmo "shtick" the grind

JuicyJelly · June 29

Treeshka wrote: »

Repeatable claims would be good. There should be like bundles of items for each type of player. One for housing materials for example. One for tri-stat potions. Kind of like the repeatable reward for Veterancy system.

As a raider and pvp casual I'm all for free tri stat pots

DoofusMax · June 29

The whole point (at least in ZOS' public statements) was to reduce the need to log in daily for the various bits like login rewards and daily endeavors. I think the current Tome system has mostly accomplished that, but it does leave regular/daily players kind of flapping in the breeze in some ways. I'm in the same boat of having bought everything in the Tome, except for the handful of stuff that the autoclaimer isn't going to buy for me. Those point-spends include some stuff that I have zero use for (like that 500-point Werewolf skill style). I'm also sitting on well over 10K Tome Points and will not turn up my nose at the gold that will show up on the 8th, but I'd much rather be able to spend those points. Keys, Transmutes, Seals, Tel Var, and the like would be nice; AP might be pushing it since that's also ranks and skill points in sufficient quantities. It's not like there is some shortage of "throw-away" items which couldn't be made into repeatables on the bonus pages.

shadyjane62 · June 29

10 gold for one tome point is not worth the time it takes. The grind becomes tedious.

kind_hero · June 29

I would like to be able to convert the remaining points into seals, but a choice of currencies would be even better. Perhaps exchange into vouchers, tel var or keys, depending on what everyone needs.

thedocbwarren · June 29

I still don't understand why we need all these currencies vs just one or maybe two. Also agree there should be a reason to bother past the extra pages.

JustLovely · June 29

BardokRedSnow wrote: »

They'll probably never do this but, Seals. Doesn't even gotta be 1-1 lol I know thats not happening especially but, after unlocking every last item in the tome convert them to seals at whatever exchange rate they like, and I bet they'd see way more purchases.

After the 2k that carry over, same as the gold now does. Just Seals instead.

I think they should give us our choice of currency to claim at the end, not mandate it be in gold. I'd much rather have IA currency since I hate that place, but tel var or AP would work too. Just please give us a choice of which currency to claim with the extra tomes. That seems the most fair, and people get to chose the currency from their least favorite activity. Everyone has gold. Most people need the other currencies.

Please.

@ZOS_Kevin

WIZZARD2K · July 2

Also to add to this, the ESO+ bonus 10% feels like a waste. There's no sense of value to me. I've purchased everything available to me (save a useless motif), upon just barely unlocking tome 10, and every tome my total has been increasing more than I can spend. No repeatable purchases available. And I'm afraid if I were to purchase the premium tome, I'd be mad I wasted money on a system that feels like it's not been thoroughly thought out. All eso+ did for me was let me open them faster, but the currency itself is a waste.