Timbercrow Wanderer: please do something

Rishikesa108 · May 24

I really like this Timbercrow Wanderer costume, but on the back there are those horrible white panties that can't even be painted in any way... they're horrible!!!
This is my black-furred cat in the picture. The white panties are truly disgusting.
No one wants provocative images, but to avoid that, ZOS created this absurd costume.
Please understand that these are fake characters, not real ones, and they can't convey sexual messages. Even if a little skin (or Khajiit fur in this case) shows, no one is shocked.
Please, at least let us paint it black or gray...
Thanks.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_Kevin
Screenshot_20260524_025025.png?ex=6a139d7a&is=6a124bfa&hm=51fa8a0f396e4341997f6af3c5ea97d2e581fc6ede014731fc5cb074037ac03a&

Screenshot_20260524_025025.png?ex=6a139d7a&is=6a124bfa&hm=51fa8a0f396e4341997f6af3c5ea97d2e581fc6ede014731fc5cb074037ac03a&

SwordOfSagas · May 24

Almalexia wears a similar costume, but it doesn't come with grannies underwear like this lol.

Avran_Sylt · May 24

I'm just surprised it doesn't just use the standard underwear.

Besides, it wouldn't be the worst you can see from in-game styles. (nsfw)

Nemesis7884 · May 24

maybe they could remove the panties and just increase the size of the fur if they think it would be too dicy

AcadianPaladin · May 24

If Almalexia can wear a loincloth flawlessly, why can't my elf? Given the cost (in blood or treasure) to get this costume, it is quite irresponsible/negligent to leave it in such a defective state since the costume’s introduction way back in 2016.

LunaFlora · May 24

i wish the Timbercrow Wanderer costume used the default underwear.
and wish we had more underwear options

alternatelder · May 24

Yeah, this costume doesn't make sense especially since the Almalexia costume released. Not to mention ones before it. We also have a lot of chest showing in a new costume. They said before they wouldn't change costumes because someone might like the design, but I doubt anyone would complain about this removal/reduction of underwear. But even so, just release a version without the diaper.

Rishikesa108 · May 24

alternatelder wrote: »

Yeah, this costume doesn't make sense especially since the Almalexia costume released. Not to mention ones before it. We also have a lot of chest showing in a new costume. They said before they wouldn't change costumes because someone might like the design, but I doubt anyone would complain about this removal/reduction of underwear. But even so, just release a version without the diaper.

I'd be happy if they made underwear paintable. That way I could make them almost disappear.

Soarora · May 24

We need more dye channels for a lot of things, this is just one. I don’t mind the covering (actually, I quite dislike the terminology people use when insulting it), but the back flap should have been wider to cover it and yeah, the pale color does not look good on all skin tones. On Khajiit, it’s giving shaved.

SkaiFaith · May 24

Honestly, I lost any trace of hope I had for this to get fixed, but if anyone wanna keep the fight up for me, I can only approve and benefit if you take us all to victory.
#FreeOurBottoms

AcadianPaladin · May 24

I can't believe anyone at ZoS would claim that the diaper butt is a style choice they made. Therefore it is a bug - and bugs should be fixed - particularly one that folks have been complaining about for 10 years.

BardokRedSnow · May 24

it does look like a mesh bug rather than a design choice, and it doesnt really affect me but id still like it to be fixed, for reasons lol. If people gonna wear it may as well get rid of the eyesore in the back.

spartaxoxo · May 24

They don't change design choices after the fact. They could release a new one though

zaria · May 24

Rishikesa108 wrote: »

I really like this Timbercrow Wanderer costume, but on the back there are those horrible white panties that can't even be painted in any way... they're horrible!!!
This is my black-furred cat in the picture. The white panties are truly disgusting.
No one wants provocative images, but to avoid that, ZOS created this absurd costume.
Please understand that these are fake characters, not real ones, and they can't convey sexual messages. Even if a little skin (or Khajiit fur in this case) shows, no one is shocked.
Please, at least let us paint it black or gray...
Thanks.
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_Kevin

On a khajiit its looks like she shaved her buts, who is way more kinky than the original forsworn armor was.
it looks decent on an nord or bosmer as the diaper match the skin color.
On any other race or if you use a skin it looks horrible, is it racist?

zaria · May 24

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

I can't believe anyone at ZoS would claim that the diaper butt is a style choice they made. Therefore it is a bug - and bugs should be fixed - particularly one that folks have been complaining about for 10 years.

No they added the adult diaper for reasons, probably to not make an to sexy outfit as its bad because.
And they only tested it on nords I assume.

dcrush · May 25

spartaxoxo wrote: »

They don't change design choices after the fact. They could release a new one though

While they have indeed said this, they have also broken this “rule” several times. The most infamous being Templar jabs and Merciless Resolve permaglow.

spartaxoxo · May 25

dcrush wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

They don't change design choices after the fact. They could release a new one though

While they have indeed said this, they have also broken this “rule” several times. The most infamous being Templar jabs and Merciless Resolve permaglow.

Neither of those were broken rules. They changed the way those skills worked so it would have been incorrect for it to keep the same look. That's a fix not an aesthetic thing. The class refresh is an aesthetic change. But, skills aren't cosmetics. They really haven't changed the look of cosmetics very often. They instead have mostly released new versions.

mdjessup4906 · May 25

This costume and the Nordic bath towel have this problem on male chars too. If theyre gonna make skimpy clothes do it right.

virtus753 · May 25

spartaxoxo wrote: »

dcrush wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

They don't change design choices after the fact. They could release a new one though

While they have indeed said this, they have also broken this “rule” several times. The most infamous being Templar jabs and Merciless Resolve permaglow.

Neither of those were broken rules. They changed the way those skills worked so it would have been incorrect for it to keep the same look. That's a fix not an aesthetic thing. The class refresh is an aesthetic change. But, skills aren't cosmetics. They really haven't changed the look of cosmetics very often. They instead have mostly released new versions.

They needed to update the *cadence* of the Jabs animation to match the new timing of the strikes. Nothing about timing, cadence, or number of strikes involved even remotely suggests the need to change the aesthetic of Jabs from a motif-less spear of light to a Nighthollow motif. In that same update they used that very motif for the spears thrown by an Archdruid, which means it was simply the style-du-jour rather than a choice driven by lore or aesthetic consistency, which Templar (and poor Devyric) now sorely lacks.

AllenaNightWood · May 25

this has been an issue since it came out would love to actually here something about it

AScarlato · May 25

Let's just be realistic - they made the costume to have sex appeal and most players that use it tend to pick it for that same reason. Maybe a few pick it to look "tribal" or something but for most they want to wear something skimpy.

The diaper works against the point of the outfit. Nothing less sexy than that diaper and I'm not sure how any person who chooses to wear that attire would pair it with a diaper.

spartaxoxo · May 25

virtus753 wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

dcrush wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

They don't change design choices after the fact. They could release a new one though

While they have indeed said this, they have also broken this “rule” several times. The most infamous being Templar jabs and Merciless Resolve permaglow.

Neither of those were broken rules. They changed the way those skills worked so it would have been incorrect for it to keep the same look. That's a fix not an aesthetic thing. The class refresh is an aesthetic change. But, skills aren't cosmetics. They really haven't changed the look of cosmetics very often. They instead have mostly released new versions.

They needed to update the *cadence* of the Jabs animation to match the new timing of the strikes. Nothing about timing, cadence, or number of strikes involved even remotely suggests the need to change the aesthetic of Jabs from a motif-less spear of light to a Nighthollow motif. In that same update they used that very motif for the spears thrown by an Archdruid, which means it was simply the style-du-jour rather than a choice driven by lore or aesthetic consistency, which Templar (and poor Devyric) now sorely lacks.

Since they had to give it a new animation, they were obviously going to bring it up to modern animation standards. I don't really get the Nighthollow thing anyway. They share a model but the Templar Skill looks distinctive enough from a Nighthollow staff that they obviously aren't the same thing. They just both have the same type of spearhead, which I would expect to be true of a bunch of spears and staves. I moreso dislike the strange animation that they chose. To each their own though. I'm not a big fan of that change either. I hope they update the animation a third time with the class refresh.