SwordOfSagas wrote: »

let the artist build the Lego and let the Ai put it together, it could get all the lore and make a better story in seconds.

GenAI does not work like that. You can give it a list, ask it to alphabetise without adding or changing anything, and it will STILL add random hallucinations like telling you there are catchable dolphins in Animal Crossing.

Syldras wrote: »

Is ESO art the way it is right now?

What?

Absolutely not.

One, artists need jobs.
Two, humans need clean air and drinking water, and AI needs datacentres that burn through that.

If I found out that major art, character voicing, design etc was AI on ESO, I would be done immediately. The dev team might not be perfect but they are people. We're in this as a collective experience. The community is a huge draw of this game. I got so fed up with AI being everywhere I've been learning how to sing and play instruments because I am just so done with that nonsense.

Excessive mindless content isn't a bonus either. If I wanted endless radiant quests I'd go play Skyrim.

One big problem with AI written quests is that neural network AI's, like LLMs and most of the others in the current 'wave' are not good at consistency. I know there's work being done to address that but as far as I've heard it's not there yet.

So you'll get things like a character asking you to retrieve his father's old spell book, with a long and elaborate backstory about how it's the only memento he has of his father, who always hoped his son would learn magic and follow in his footsteps, but as a boy he wasn't ready and refused the opportunity, which he now regrets and wants to change.

But by the time you come back with the book that earlier conversation is lost. You tell him you've got his spellbook and he'll thank you, but now he's going on about how it's the secret tome all his research has lead to and will allow him to finally create the ultimate immortality spell to outdo his former master, who thought he was the greatest wizard who ever lived.

Also there will be no payoff from that, beyond a generic automatically generated quest reward. You won't get to see him transform into a lich or ascend to Aetherium or even die in the attempt, nothing will happen because the AI doesn't know what any of the words it's spitting out mean and isn't capable of connecting them to even pre-existing animations to create any follow-up or resolution beyond the one conversation.

Arguably the way around that is to have the game developers create a 'framework' and manually design the connections, steps, custom animations etc. which the AI can't generate and let it fill in the bits it can do, but that quickly gets to be at least as much work (maybe even more) than just creating quests themselves.

Having said that Bethesda is one company I would genuinely love to see make an AI-based game, but not in ESO and probably not a conventional RPG. What I'd like them to do is take the original version of the NPC AI from Oblivion, the version they had to drastically tone down because NPCs wouldn't stay on script, maybe update it to take advantage of modern technology, and build a game around exploring what it can do. Like I said I don't think it would work for an RPG, I imagine it would be closer to Sims but without direct control over the characters, or Creatures but with people. It would probably be a pretty niche game but I'd absolutely love it.

no.
i want quests to be written by humans and quest dialogue to be voiced by voice actors.

They can and probably already use tools that are technically artificial intelligence such as voice filters, spell correction, name generators.

I don't want creative people losing their jobs. Having said that you can't deny that the amount of new content has been on a steady decline. If AI allows those writers and coders to be more productive then I think that would be a win/win situation.

I see the understandable support for humans, but much as most shoppers will buy the cheap product from 'bad labor' - automated or overseases 'slave labor' - over more expensive local labor, I suspect that competition will be a big threat.

If other games offer hugely larger, more varied content for a fraction of the cost, I suspect most players will select it, leaving a few to support 'human content', much as a minority stubbornly say they'll 'pay more for locally made'.

I'm not sure how this can be changed, other than a government ban on AI content, which I think is all but impossible.

Gabriel_H wrote: »

A compelling case right up until the people whose ideas the AI has stolen puts them out of work, coupled with suddenly getting a quest to exterminate all Argonians because AI is a reflection of its programmers and the data it is fed, and those are both human things, and we are very flawed.

Well, I believe that the tome challenge "Kill mobs in 3 zones" happened to be released without an AI idea.
However it ended up with the extermination of the whole Wrothgar rabbit population for a pretty solid period of time

Ai companions that act like real people would be neat. Especially if this gets them to not stand in fire.

Three scenarios, all of which see AI content:

1. ESO adopts it, and has some gains while it loses the players above who don't want it.

2. ESO finds a way to try to offer it only to players who want it, like in a setting. This will reduce the players who leave, but there could still be some.

3. ESO does not adopt AI, but competitor games do, and possibly gain a big competitive advantage over ESO, which continues to have some number of players who want an AI-free game.