sure? it sounds like it could be useful

you know many hard content need tanks swap taunt...right?

It would actually be a nuisance in some content, plus a lot of people I feel would blindly take it and cause issues in pug content.

Soarora wrote: »

But also… no. A basic skill of tanking is knowing what to taunt (like @Gabriel_H said). You do not need to taunt everything. Sometimes you specifically don’t want to taunt things, sometimes it’s just little enemies that do approximately no damage to the dps.

Just to expand on that for others. If your tank is trying to taunt everything, they are going to struggle to position the more dangerous mobs, as well as have issues with resource management. Your healers aren't going to learn healing priorities (which shift during a fight), and your DDs are not going to learn how to deal with smaller mobs which will matter come harder content and harder boss fights where it is simply not possible for a tank to pick up every single mob.

There are other ways of dealing with smaller mobs than taunt. An understanding of the underlying threat mechanic helps - yes, there is one - which is most damage/healing done in a prior 10-15s makes that person a priority for a non-taunted mob but there is also a distance coefficient to that. It's why most mobs run to a tank when they start a fight before anyone else has done damage. i.e. if DDs want clean stacks, then wait 2 seconds.

There are also crowd control skills that can be effective in loose stacking. I find Turn Evil to be particularly effective especially in dungeons. Taunt first mob -> slam Turn Evil - the smaller mobs will be immobilized for 4 seconds and most will die in cleave as the DDs target the big mobs.

Part of effectively tanking is knowing what to taunt and when, how to position it, when to swap taunts (a mechanic that, if not done, will murder you in vHoF and vDSR, just to name two off the top of my head), and not to taunt too much (some things can actually be over-taunted and then lose taunt altogether because of it).

Not to mention in cases of accident when a tank accidentally taunts something the other tank had already taunted, and now that tank has to taunt it back. Now you have a timer where if it gets taunted by the other tank again, it's gonna go taunt immune entirely for a time and run loose.

Nah, I wanna control my taunts with... my taunt skills only.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwea0LZQe9k

I don’t like the aspect of taunting in this game. I find threat generation type of mechanics to be better. In other games tank’s offensive skills generated a large amount of threat. This allowed for a large diversity of skill choice and control. Making a passive on heavy armor that increases the tank’s threat (not eso taunting) would be something I would welcome.

To be clear the tank would still have to maintain attack rotations to stay on the top of the threat list in those games, so it did not make tanking easier it just streamlined things a bit.

Part of the problem with taunt in this game is the very fact it is an auto target the tank skill, which why the devs tend to avoid any type “aoe taunt”. It’s kind of too powerful because for the most part players hit one button get the npc on them instantly.

ceruulean wrote: »

Idk why people are against AOE taunting. There are fights where an AOE taunt would be disadvantageous, and sweaty players would rather slot a debuff or something helpful in the 12 skill slots. AOE taunts would make tedious trash and dungeon runs more enjoyable.

ZOS has added oakensoul and velothi and arcanist beam, and soon more channels, to make DPS more accessible and fun. Why not make the tank role more accessible? Wouldn't it be fun to aggro 50+ mobs and see how long you can last?

The thread/poll is not about AoE taunts. It's about granting taunt to a passive skill. The overwhelming negative reaction isn't against aoe taunting, but moreso against it being passive.

ceruulean wrote: »

Idk why people are against AOE taunting. There are fights where an AOE taunt would be disadvantageous, and sweaty players would rather slot a debuff or something helpful in the 12 skill slots. AOE taunts would make tedious trash and dungeon runs more enjoyable.

ZOS has added oakensoul and velothi and arcanist beam, and soon more channels, to make DPS more accessible and fun. Why not make the tank role more accessible? Wouldn't it be fun to aggro 50+ mobs and see how long you can last? Isn't that the quintessential tank fantasy?

You could make AOE taunts expensive, make an AoE taunt only last 2 seconds, make the mob cc immune, which would be bad if they're channelers that need to be interrupted, to make it less brainless.

This isn't an AoE taunt poll, it's passive taunting. I'm pro-Tormentor denerfing.

Only if its a chain and only if its in PvP😎