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Forced To Subclass?

coreymj78
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Don't get me wrong, I am having a blast with subclass (despite any class ID arguments that may exist), but I think my main gripe right now is that I'm seeing that I'm pretty much forced to subclass if I want to do competitive DPS, which is fine, but still sucks for folks wanting to run a pure class setup for class ID purposes or simply because they like their class.

Is there no pure magicka sorc builds that can do similar DPS to a typical subclass setup (like Herald / Stormcalling / Nightblade for example)? Right now I'm rocking Herald / Storm / Ardent and having a blast. I realize that I could probably do more damage with Herald / Dawn's setup, but I just don't care for Templar or being top of charts, I just want to be somewhat competitive at least, so I don't have people insulting me or kicking me. You know how it goes.

So my question is, can a pure Sorc (my base class) run a solo-friendly build that can do competitive DPS with any of the meta Sorc/beam builds? I was running this for the longest time back in the day and it did well, but I'm pretty sure this would be left in the dust when compared to other meta/solo builds:

https://alcasthq.com/eso-solo-magicka-sorcerer-build-pve/

Right now I'm running basically this build, but using Ardent instead of Nightblade for third line:

https://hyperioxes.com/eso/solo/strongest-subclass-build

Thoughts?
  • coreymj78
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    Can I modify this build to use Magicka and staves (with this same subclass combo: Herald/Storm/NB)?

    https://www.skinnycheeks.gg/stormrune-assassin-u49
  • Necrotech_Master
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    your not forced to subclass unless your trying to be meta

    and with how OP some of those class mastery passives are, you might be better of waiting to do a full build until the next update when pureclass comes back lol
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  • CatalinaWineMixer2
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    For a year, our beloved characters have been rendered worthless in the name of a cherry picking system known as Subclassing. The same characters we were in end game and on leaderboards with, sent straight to the trash compactor. Subclassing needs to be removed. It should not be and never should have never been the meta. This is not Skyrim, WoW or any other game. Everyone who has ever purchased the game knows it is a Class based game. Its the first thing every player has to do when they start the game.

    Anyone who advocates for Subclassing and says the character refreshes are fair or something theyre looking forward to is interested in cherry picking them to outcomepete the original Class. Its all you see and hear about in PvP. These underwhelming Class Mastery Passives are not on par with Subclassing. Instead of adding those, they should be reducing buffs and passives on Subclassing. Re instituting a rules based combat system and enforcing it. Combat is absolutely out of control. There is entirely way too much dps. No one should be able to put every buff on themselves without having multiple supports in a group. The Oakensoul Ring being the 1 exception. The awful combat exploit (Subclassing) has driven thousands of people away from this game. It is singlehandedly the worst update in the history of Eso.
  • david_m_18b16_ESO
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    Thanks for the post, I was planing a return to ESO but aubclassing isn't my cup of tea dor a MMO. I'll go back to FF14.
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