Make some empty pve zones to pvp zones in live events

amiiegee · April 29

Some Zones are less populated by the nature of things, people have finished the quest lines or they are long time in the game.

Why dont we spice the game a bit up and bring the alliance war into some areas as a live event? Maybe with a nice story or tactical goals.

Only for a limited time. Maybe with no proc or even as a vengeance mode (wich i despite personally).

heimdall14_9 · April 29

turning all of eso into pvp for MYM would be cool

amiiegee · April 29

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

turning all of eso into pvp for MYM would be cool

thats a great idea - and turn the etablished pvp zones into PVE meanwhile

heimdall14_9 · April 29

amiiegee wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

turning all of eso into pvp for MYM would be cool

thats a great idea - and turn the etablished pvp zones into PVE meanwhile

that i dont know about thats giving free achievements away that waters down their meanings so id have to say no to that part of making pvp a real world event , unless your going to say trials and dungeons can be raided by full alliance to get them achievements too

frogthroat · April 29

I'm a PVE player and... I kinda like this idea.

Not only during Mayhem, but a weekly changing zone PVP event. So the PVP-enabled zone changes between base game zones.

Something like Auridon (AD) -> Alik'r Desert (DC) -> Deshaan (EP) -> Grahtwood (AD) -> Bangkorai (DC) -> Eastmarch (EP)...

That would make the alliance in zones matter. Now when you go to Deshaan as an AD character, nothing is different than if you would go there as an EP character.

Oh, and the theme could be that other alliances invade the zone and those whose zone it is defend, while the other alliances try to capture.

Those who want to do strictly just PVE can just wait a week and the PVP zone will change to the next base game zone.

Poss · April 29

Screw GM, I want to defend Wayrest!

gamergirldk · April 29

I'll be in my bunk until this pvp madness is over

LunaFlora · April 29

No thanks.

OsUfi · April 29

No. Funny, I've just said no to a PvE Imperial City in the other thread.

Overland has been casual for casual players for years. Some of us will be putting the hard mode up. But I don't think anything should be detrimental to the casual PvE players. If anything, give us different PvP modes, like the cyrodiil keep battle thing they're working on. A guild v guild thing would be cool.

But yeah, leave casual PvE for the casual PvErs.

XxCaLxX · April 29

Sounds good. Also turn empty pvp zones(cyrodiil and sewers)to pve.

Hapexamendios · April 29

No, leave all areas as they are.

Syldras · April 29

I'd be fine with inverting the PvP and PvE zones for a week, but I bet it would cause a huge participation drop, with many people not logging in for that period of time at all. And that's surely nothing ZOS would want to see.

AzuraFan · April 29

XxCaLxX wrote: »

Sounds good. Also turn empty pvp zones(cyrodiil and sewers)to pve.

Yep. If they were to implement this idea, that would be the fair thing to do. IC is dead most of the time, so I'd like it to be PvE-only occasionally. Same goes for some Cyrodiil campaigns. Let's make those campaigns PvE only for a while.

annathepiper · April 29

I am mostly a PVE player. I'd PVP more but I usually play on Steam Deck, and my Deck struggles to keep up in battles where there are a few dozen players running around. So when I do duck into PVP, I'm mostly on the periphery of things trying to throw heals around as best I can. Usually I fall down a lot and die.

THAT SAID: I think it'd actually be neat if there were periodic Alliance War events scattered around the game, if the logistics could be worked out properly. Narrative-wise I'd love to see there being some consequences if you're tromping around in territory not actually held by your alliance. Not only in the PVP sense, but also in the sense of "local guards and soldiers are going to find you incredibly sus".

The logistics would concern me, though. Because yeah a bunch of casual players aren't going to want to engage with such an event, if all they want to do is run overland quests and stuff. And you'd have to account for what happens if a particular player isn't originally from the alliance whose territory they're in, but what if they're running Cadwell's Silver or Cadwell's Gold? My main's almost done running Gold, so what would happen in that scenario?

TL;DR: I like the idea but not sure it could be really implemented properly.

El_Borracho · April 29

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

amiiegee wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

turning all of eso into pvp for MYM would be cool

thats a great idea - and turn the etablished pvp zones into PVE meanwhile

that i dont know about thats giving free achievements away that waters down their meanings so id have to say no to that part of making pvp a real world event , unless your going to say trials and dungeons can be raided by full alliance to get them achievements too

Whereas making everyone an easy target in PVE areas does not? Sounds very campy....

xR3ACTORx · April 29

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

turning all of eso into pvp for MYM would be cool

This might bring me back

NikoSquared · April 29

I think a major problem with this is if a player who has no interest in PvP wanted to complete a quest line there, maybe they had it ongoing or want an achievement

Until the PvP is off again, they’re likely to get repeatably ganked and might not have any support if they’re not in guilds in such

Don’t get me wrong, I like the idea as a PvP player, but this would have to be a separate layer of the zone to avoid screwing over players who want no part in it

Razmirra · April 29

If that is done, I will avoid these zones like the plague until it is over. If you want that, make a PvP enabled instance for the zone. I don't need someone attacking me while travelling or in a delve..or god forbid, in a town browsing guild stores or shard hunting.

heimdall14_9 · April 29

El_Borracho wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

amiiegee wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

turning all of eso into pvp for MYM would be cool

thats a great idea - and turn the etablished pvp zones into PVE meanwhile

that i dont know about thats giving free achievements away that waters down their meanings so id have to say no to that part of making pvp a real world event , unless your going to say trials and dungeons can be raided by full alliance to get them achievements too

Whereas making everyone an easy target in PVE areas does not? Sounds very campy....

you tell me 1 pvp achievement that youd get for killing someone in a pve zone ??????? having the ability to kill players in pve areas dont put amore a target on anyone and if you are a easy target in pve youd still be a easy target in pvp , being a easy target would come down to being a bad pvp player and there is only one person to blame there

SerafinaWaterstar · April 29

As a pvp player….no. Gods no. This would be awful. Just…..awful. A gank fest. <shudders>

Soarora · April 29

Most of the zones are huge, I wouldn’t imagine they’d make for good PvP. Like Cyrodiil where theres approximately nothing until you get to a keep… except with no keeps…?

heimdall14_9 · April 29

Soarora wrote: »

Most of the zones are huge, I wouldn’t imagine they’d make for good PvP. Like Cyrodiil where theres approximately nothing until you get to a keep… except with no keeps…?

the cat and mouse game would be real thats for sure

TX12001rwb17_ESO · April 29

Only unless you get a bounty that does not go away if you attack a player as that would be a crime.

tomofhyrule · April 29

So… “spread out the PvP playerbase as far as possible so it’s almost impossible to find someone to fight.”

I don’t know, if I were into PvP, I’d like the PvPers to be concentrated together so I could find someone action. This really just sounds like wanting to look through the world and get randomly ganked once in a blue moon.

heimdall14_9 · April 29

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Only unless you get a bounty that does not go away if you attack a player as that would be a crime.

this could add a cool part to it make all guards gold bar for event so theres more unkillable enforcement and give out bounty with 2xs the cooldown timer (endless bounty little to much)

El_Borracho · April 29

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

amiiegee wrote: »

heimdall14_9 wrote: »

turning all of eso into pvp for MYM would be cool

thats a great idea - and turn the etablished pvp zones into PVE meanwhile

that i dont know about thats giving free achievements away that waters down their meanings so id have to say no to that part of making pvp a real world event , unless your going to say trials and dungeons can be raided by full alliance to get them achievements too

Whereas making everyone an easy target in PVE areas does not? Sounds very campy....

you tell me 1 pvp achievement that youd get for killing someone in a pve zone ??????? having the ability to kill players in pve areas dont put amore a target on anyone and if you are a easy target in pve youd still be a easy target in pvp , being a easy target would come down to being a bad pvp player and there is only one person to blame there

Hmm, maybe the daily "Kill X number of [Insert Class Here]?" Or "Kill 150 Enemies?" All of the Grand Slayer achievements?

But you told on yourself. "Being a easy target would come down to being a bad pvp player and there is only one person to blame there." In a PVE zone. LOL. Camper it is.

AdamBourke · April 29

As an exclusively PvE player... yeah, this actually would be cool. I dont think it should be too often, but its a really fun idea. If its just one zone at a time, and only for a week or something? It wouldnt but PvE'rs out too much

The_Drop_Bear · April 29

Only if they made it completely optional, you had to opt in, that way those who want to do whatever they were doing in the zone without being harassed by killjoys ganking them can continue their buisness.

Also make IC and Cyro PVE for the duration

amiiegee · April 30

The_Drop_Bear wrote: »

Only if they made it completely optional, you had to opt in, that way those who want to do whatever they were doing in the zone without being harassed by killjoys ganking them can continue their buisness.

Also make IC and Cyro PVE for the duration

Yes that would be a good idea