AI Written Posts

YffresTrill · April 28

I am sure I am not the only one who has noticed the influx of posts on here clearly written with AI. If you have spent any amount of time using AI chat tools, you very quickly get a feel for how they read and how it differs from the typing patterns of natural humans.

My question is: do people think that such posts should be allowed to be made without in the least a disclaimer that the post was written with AI? Or should the forum rules be changed to disallow these posts?

LunaFlora · April 28

Other.
We do not know for certain if a post was made with help of Artificial Intelligence unless people tell us.

SolarRune · April 28

There are so many reason that people use AI and in most cases this will likely be to workout how to make a point or to determine tone of the post that may not be in someone's first or even second language.

I think mods need to be aware of the potential use to create argumentative responses quickly, but negative/unnecessarily argumentative/baiting are equally possible without AI, so where those posts fall into those categories they should be dealt with according to rules to do with that and not exclude AI.

If you think it's bad here, you should try going through job applications, anyone that thinks AI makes a good job of creating tailored content is sorely mistaken.

JohnRingo · April 28

YffresTrill wrote: »

I am sure I am not the only one who has noticed the influx of posts on here clearly written with AI. If you have spent any amount of time using AI chat tools, you very quickly get a feel for how they read and how it differs from the typing patterns of natural humans.

My question is: do people think that such posts should be allowed to be made without in the least a disclaimer that the post was written with AI? Or should the forum rules be changed to disallow these posts?

Policing AI, huh? Good luck, man.

Soarora · April 28

I do not like AI posts and I do not want to see them. In fact, I see a post formatted with emojis and I gloss over and leave the post. That said, I feel eternally bad after witnessing a user get targeted with sly comments for their writing, to then be told to use AI to organize their thoughts, to then get targeted AGAIN for the AI. It's caused derailment of conversations whilst also not being fair to the user in question. I'd hate for them to get sent back to square one.

FadeShade · April 28

AI is trained using 'natural human' text so, inevitably, someone will write something and someone else will come along and think it was written by AI. But it doesn't matter to me. I'd think the people using these AI tools do so to improve readability which on a forum is great because formatting and some standardised language is all helpful, and I'm grateful for any help. I don't use any of these tools but maybe I should.

I suppose the only concern is if most forum users go afk at the same time and leave their AI bots to carry on conversations with each other!

Or if someone really does write their own posts but others choose to believe it's all AI written.

I don't think it would be very nice to be confused with a machine because you maybe share some idiosyncrasies of language style with enough people that were used in training language models and then a language machine just appropriates that style.

ivaylo.krumoveb17_ESO · April 28

Plus, i'm fairly certain that i can use AI to generate a post, then spice it up with some slang and abreviations and it will pass wihout raising any alarms.

Btw, how do you plan to implement your censorship? By using AI perhaps?

YffresTrill · April 28

I will not be sharing my opinion because I do not wish to bias the poll. I wanted to get the community's feedback on this, regardless of the responses.

frogthroat · April 28

If people need the help, go for it. That's why humans keep inventing tools.

Just don't outsource thinking to these tools. Which, unfortunately, is happening. Lancet recently published a study where they found out that doctors who routinely use AI were worse at spotting cancer. Worse than doctors who don't use AI, but also worse than they used to be themselves.

I would prefer if people are honest about their AI use, but I am not against using them in forum posts. If you need it, you need it, nothing wrong with that. And if you want to nerf your own cognitive faculties by using AI to formulate your responses instead of merely helping you to overcome a problem, why not.

I prefer not to have -2 to INT, but those who do want the debuff, go for it.

Danikat · April 28

On a forum I don't think it matters. Yes AI sometimes uses strange wording, but so do lots of people (including native English speakers). Yes you might waste your time correcting or refuting points the poster put zero thought into, written by something that doesn't even understand the game, but that's also not new or unique to AI.

If you think a post isn't worth responding to, for any reason, then don't. No one is automatically entitled to your time and attention, however they wrote their post.

My approach is to judge everything as if the poster wrote it. If AI makes them look like an idiot by making incorrect claims that's their problem. Same if it spits out a long rambling post decorated with creative formatting and emojis which no one reads because it's a nonsense essay. It wouldn't be any better if they'd done that all by themselves.

ADarklore · April 28

Problem is, a lot of players using the forums aren't native English speakers, and use AI to help create a post in their non-native language.

Blood_again · April 28

AI is just a tool.
Whatever tools were used, the responsibility for the post or comment is on the user.
Users post it under their own (nick)names, don't they?

Some tools should be banned for granting advantages in competitions. It is sporting.
But the forum is not really a competitive and not a sport.
So I think anything is allowed while it doesn't break the existing community rules. Including AI.

Honestly, I would't declare that "this post was created with orthography checker" in every comment, if I used one

marcbf · April 28

ADarklore wrote: »

Problem is, a lot of players using the forums aren't native English speakers, and use AI to help create a post in their non-native language.

You beat me to it!

DenverRalphy · April 28

I don't care if someone enticed a team of cats to stroll across their keyboard to generate their post. Or hired an ESO guru to ghost write it for them. If that's what they wish to submit, my only interest or concern is over the contents of that post. Not how it was created.

Derailing threads with knee jerk anti AI sentiment is usually more disruptive than the contents of an AI generated post. And quite frankly, getting a bit stale.

spartaxoxo · April 28

I know that at least one of the people using AI to help them write their posts did so as an accessibility tool. People would complain their posts were incomprehensible before. So they started putting it through AI to be understood. I tried to help them with some tips on formatting because even after they opened about it, people were still complaining about them using it. So that's why I remember it.

Another reason a real human might use AI to help them post is if their English is poor.

These are two use cases where AI is a good thing even if it can be annoying. I don't think there should be an outright ban on it as long as the post isn't breaking other rules and isn't just doing other bot behavior.

Thumbless_Bot · April 28

AI shouldnt be able to post but should be able to be used by people to better format and formulate their points.

I use copilot all the time at work but I am still responsible for clicking send. I own the communication and that should apply here as well IMHO

spartaxoxo · April 28

Thumbless_Bot wrote: »

I use copilot all the time at work but I am still responsible for clicking send. I own the communication and that should apply here as well IMHO

Just wanted to highlight this part here because I agree with 1000%. If someone decides to use AI they better be prepared to carefully read anything it said before hitting send. Because once you post it, you're the one that said it. You can't blame AI anymore. When you press "post reply," it is your name on that post and you are accepting full ownership of any and everything in that post.

I think there's a thread where someone is learning that the hard way right now so it's important for anyone to keep this in mind if they decide to use it to help them format a post.

Bguk · April 28

Adding to the I don't care if someone uses AI to post crowd. As others have said, it's the users responsibility when they click/press post reply.

@frogthroat "I prefer not to have -2 to INT, but those who do want the debuff, go for it." This is great, thank you for the morning laugh.

AzuraFan · April 28

It would add more work for the moderators, and people would scream if posts they wrote themselves were removed in error.

Having said that, when I come across a post that's clearly AI, I just skip it (if it's the OP, I skip the thread).

whitecrow · April 28

Make them prove they're human.

AScarlato · April 28

I put "other" only because I'm not sure how the mods could verify if something is written AI or not, so I'd hesitate to know trying to act against this would go all that well.

I'm personally not interested in interacting with AI-written arguments myself. I haven't really noticed this in the threads I'm in which is usually about cosmetics or story, but if it became apparent I'd just stop responding.

spartaxoxo · April 28

whitecrow wrote: »

Make them prove they're human.

It hasn't been by bot accounts thus far. Regular humans with consistent and years long posting history.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · April 28

AI is a clear part of any companies workflow these days, but I think it would be nice to label a post which is compiled with the use of AI. It can help players get answers to easier questions faster and leave room for Devs and community management to spend time on the more crucial things.

freespirit · April 28

I would never use AI to write something for me but I can see situations where it might be useful.

I have used AI to help me design quizes and that is an absolute exercise in hilarity!!

Knowing how categorically incorrect the questions and answers created can be, I certainly would not trust it to write anything on my behalf. 😂

Zodiarkslayer · April 28

I use my own intelligence. Thank you very much. 💡

whitecrow · April 28

spartaxoxo wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

Make them prove they're human.

It hasn't been by bot accounts thus far. Regular humans with consistent and years long posting history.

I guess I don't understand. Why would a person use AI to make a post?

Bguk · April 28

whitecrow wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

Make them prove they're human.

It hasn't been by bot accounts thus far. Regular humans with consistent and years long posting history.

I guess I don't understand. Why would a person use AI to make a post?

One poster I am aware of has some cognitive issues due to an injury if I remember correctly. Their AI posts are way clearer than their own typed posts.

whitecrow · April 28

Bguk wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

spartaxoxo wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

Make them prove they're human.

It hasn't been by bot accounts thus far. Regular humans with consistent and years long posting history.

I guess I don't understand. Why would a person use AI to make a post?

One poster I am aware of has some cognitive issues due to an injury if I remember correctly. Their AI posts are way clearer than their own typed posts.

Ah, okay.

Blood_again · April 28

whitecrow wrote: »

Make them prove they're human.

I guess that implementing the Voigt-Kampff test is not a problem for the current technology level.
We even might delegate this task to AI... oh, wait

DenverRalphy · April 28

Blood_again wrote: »

whitecrow wrote: »

Make them prove they're human.

I guess that implementing the Voigt-Kampff test is not a problem for the current technology level.
We even might delegate this task to AI... oh, wait

Aylish · April 28

I‘d rather read some AI generated comments that are kind of constructive than those „no I don‘t want this“, „I don‘t like that“ comments of some forum members without any substance.
If it helps disordered people or those that are simply no native speakers to point out what they mean, it shouldn‘t bother anyone.

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