During the Two Handed Rework

Sordidfairytale · April 12

During the Two Handed Rework, why did the devs not grant the back bar enchantment proccing perk to Carve? Currently Two Handed is the only skill line that can proc back bar enchantments that is limited to one single ability, Stampede.

The other weapon lines that can proc back bar enchantments, Bow, Dual Wield, and Destruction Staff, all have multiple morphs to choose from. It would be grand if Two Hand had an option that did not bug you out constantly when being used.

Sordidfairytale · April 12

Actually, why not allow any weapon ability DOT from the back bar proc the enchantments while on the front bar? To include Lingering Torment from the Scribed weapon abilities?

Treeshka · April 13

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

Actually, why not allow any weapon ability DOT from the back bar proc the enchantments while on the front bar? To include Lingering Torment from the Scribed weapon abilities?

This was implemented back in the day, it only lasted a week in the game or two. Then nerfs to oblivion damage enchant and some adjustment to Torug's Pact set. It is not a good idea based on the past.

Soarora · April 13

What abilities from other lines proc enchants while the bar is swapped? I thought it was only one per?

Sordidfairytale · April 13

Soarora wrote: »

What abilities from other lines proc enchants while the bar is swapped? I thought it was only one per?

I never said the other abilities, I said the abilities that do proc have multiple morph options. Two handed is limited to one buggy morph. If a second ability had one morph that procc'd enchantments it wouldn't be game breaking.

Treeshka wrote: »

This was implemented back in the day, it only lasted a week in the game or two. Then nerfs to oblivion damage enchant and some adjustment to Torug's Pact set. It is not a good idea based on the past.

The cool down on Decease Health enchant with infused and torugs is 1.4 seconds so basically every 2 seconds. This can be achieved with Volley right now, so any other weapon ability with a DOT isn't going to be any different.

Urzigurumash · April 13

Only Weapon Skill AoE Ground DoTs do this, or at least that's how it was for years. Stampede only became a Ground DoT sometime after 2020, the only others are or were Endless Hail and Wall of Elements. Carve is a Single Target DoT, like Rending Slashes, Destro Reach, and Poison Injection, none of which do what you describe.

Only those 3 skills do this. Unless any of this changed and I missed it.

Sordidfairytale · April 13

Urzigurumash wrote: »

Only Weapon Skill AoE Ground DoTs do this, or at least that's how it was for years. Stampede only became a Ground DoT sometime after 2020, the only others are or were Endless Hail and Wall of Elements. Carve is a Single Target DoT, like Rending Slashes, Destro Reach, and Poison Injection, none of which do what you describe.

Only those 3 skills do this. Unless any of this changed and I missed it.

First. Blade Cloak wants to know if it's chopped liver to you.

Second. I am suggesting that they add this perk to the other DOT abilities in the weapon skill lines.

Urzigurumash · April 13

Why is it like this? I have no idea whatsoever. Maybe somebody else does.

Urzigurumash · April 13

Sordidfairytale wrote: »

Urzigurumash wrote: »

Only Weapon Skill AoE Ground DoTs do this, or at least that's how it was for years. Stampede only became a Ground DoT sometime after 2020, the only others are or were Endless Hail and Wall of Elements. Carve is a Single Target DoT, like Rending Slashes, Destro Reach, and Poison Injection, none of which do what you describe.

Only those 3 skills do this. Unless any of this changed and I missed it.

First. Blade Cloak wants to know if it's chopped liver to you.

Second. I am suggesting that they add this perk to the other DOT abilities in the weapon skill lines.

Oh I don't think it's always done that, that must've been added at some point. That's a PBAoE DoT. Off the top of my head the only other Weapon Skill PBAoE DoT is Eye of the Storm. Does it do it?

Urzigurumash · April 13

So basically Types of DoTs do or don't this, and Single Target DoTs do not, and that's what you're asking for.

Not anything about the 2h rework really which is why I clicked on this thread.

Sordidfairytale · April 13

Blade Cloak has worked since at least 2020. I didn't really look into it before then.

My point about the 2H rework is they could have given Carve the same perk when they did the rework.

Non sticky DoTs like Wall, Stampede, Volley, and Blade Cloak tick every second.

Sticky DoTs like Reach, Carve, Poison Injection, and Twin Slashes tick every other second.

Urzigurumash · April 13

Sure I totally agree. In PvP both DoTs and Weapon Skills are both lagging behind Class Direct Damage by a huge margin, and so is Bow overall as a weapon, so this would be nice.

But maybe on a Boss fight it would be too strong with Poison Injection and Rending or something, I assume that's why it was always like this, to reduce single target DoT strength on Boss fights since that seems like a consistent effort. I think they're much too weak and have been since the late 2019 changes, especially in relation to HoTs, but that's a PvP only issue and perspective.

Lingering Torment needs a big buff to be viable in PvP, in my opinion.

Urzigurumash · April 13

The year or so when Carve stacked in PvP was nice. Hasn't really been a viable skill since, but I don't think Haemmorhage stacked then.