@Jirki88 - Nice.

@AbraCadabra - Why does the character level matter when discussing crafting? I'm sure there are lots of people that enjoy the crafting aspect of the game and I feel ESO has one of the best. So, yes, I think you should be able to get the high level materials back when deconstructing high level gear. Besides, we are only talking about 1-4 mats per item deconstructed. It takes 2x-5x that to construct an item of similar level.

You also mentioned XP for deconstructing. Crafters already get XP back when deconstructing items and the XP received goes up the higher the level of the item. No complaints here on that. This post wasn't about XP, but about the standard materials received when deconstructing items.

Next, on to the hirelings. No disappointment here either. I get blue, purple, and orange upgrade materials here from those. I could care less about the other materials received.

So, again, this is only about the standard crafting materials that appear to be non-existent when deconstructing gear five or more levels higher. Crafting materials like iron, steel, ash, oak, rawhide, leather, etc.

It's complete nonsense to link the ability to extract materials during deconstruction to the characters' "adventuring level", and not to the characters' crafting level.

Elder Scrolls is supposed to be all about playing how "we" want (obviously within reason). But the current situation doesn't facilitate that. Other games allowed people to dedicate a character to excel in crafting without the need for excessive amounts of adventuring, there's no reason why this game can't.

Personally, I believe the devs just linked it to be wrong level bar. I also believe that crafting progression shouldn't be attached to the same skill points as adventuring either. But that's a matter for a different discussion.

You can't be a dedicated crafter in this game. You have to go out and explore the world, too. It is how it was designed, simply.
I do not agree with the design and I would rather be able to make a character that is ONLY a crafter/merchant and not an adventurer, but I'm dealing with it. This is the kind of design that I don't believe that they will ever change, so I don't bother complaining about it.

You can get some stuff back, but not base materials. I agree it's frustrating that it isn't based on what the crafter can make, but the MMO market kicked out crafting as a playstyle years ago, much to it's detriment.

Crafting feels a bit unfortunate here. If you want to just craft for yourself, you learn the armour/weapon traits you want, doesn't take long. You also don't need to spend on speeding research. You don't have to keep materials lower than your level, so inventory isn't an issue. You can respec at high level once you've made your kit. If you want to craft for others, though, you are spending a large % of your skill points on it, gimping yourself somewhat in combat, researching widely, and struggling with inventory space.

The whole spending skill points on crafting thing feels like the decision of a single player game, where it makes you more powerful rather than an MMO where it makes others more powerful.

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Though for balancing purposes, I think deconstruction IP should be limited until you have invested a skill point in the tier of the material.

I like that. Good idea for balance.

I to would class this as a bug or if not, it is bad design. I can agree with those who say low level crafting should not be allowed to get as much xp or mats, but if you have invested the points into the skill and can craft a particular item, then you should be able to recover the mats from them. My main is also a full crafting char, my choice and thus far has not hampered me progressing at all. I am level 33 as a character, and my Woodworking is 30, and so I can craft Birch bows. Having crafted 44 bows and exchanged like for like with another crafter, I discovered I cannot regain ANY Birch from deconstructing, this just seem wrong, I can make them, so why can I not recover the materials?