I Do Not NEED To Go To Cyrodil...

Horace-Wimp · November 4

...but I would like to. You see, I have had a Cyrodil Treasure Map in my Inventory for about a year now and I would like to go to Cyrodil and dig it up just to see what actual treasure it holds. But I have a few problems.

First problem, Cyrodil is a PvP zone and I do NOT PvP. Can I genuinely travel Cyrodil without needing to engage in PvP of ANY kind? I doubt it.

Second problem, I am Daggerfall Covenant and the dig site is on the FAR east (right hand) side of the zone. I've only been to Cyrodil twice and each time that area is NOT under Daggerfall control and I have never been to that side of the zone.

Third problem and probably the biggest one I have - I cannot recall out of Cyrodil unless I am at my faction's base camp. I know I can port within control points which might get me close or even back to Daggerfall base camp. But, I want to go dig up this treasure and then IMMEDIATELY port out of the zone. As far as I know, this is impossible. The ONLY workaround I have found for getting out of Cyrodil other than using the wayshrine at my faction's base camp is to queue for a dungeon, wait for the queue to pop, enter the dungeon and then leave the dungeon. I did this once on my second visit to Cyrodil and when I left the dungeon I was back in the "real" world and not stuck in Cyrodil.

I understand that some folks enjoy PvP and I say, "More power to you. It's important to do something you enjoy." I do NOT enjoy PvP. At all. Which is why I avoid it religiously. And I think those that enjoy PvP are grateful to me for NOT doing PvP but I could be wrong. /shrug

So. Any useful suggestions that might make a trip to Cyrodil to dig up this treasure quick and easy followed by a quick and easy exit? Please let me know your thoughts.

Thank you.

Renato90085 · November 4

1.90% time cyro is a dead zone,you hard found other player
2.you can put treasure Map in bank and swap other toon
3.you can queue and port to IC and leave from base backdoor,maybe in 30sec -1 min

like now i buy a treasure Map and dig up in 3 min
https://youtu.be/8OwSfQOFzGY

Unfadingsilence · November 4

Renato90085 wrote: »

1.90% time cyro is a dead zone,you hard found other player
2.you can put treasure Map in bank and swap other toon
3.you can queue and port to IC and leave from base backdoor,maybe in 30sec -1 min

like now i buy a treasure Map and dig up in 3 min
https://youtu.be/8OwSfQOFzGY

90% what server do you play on 🤣

Renato90085 · November 4

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

1.90% time cyro is a dead zone,you hard found other player
2.you can put treasure Map in bank and swap other toon
3.you can queue and port to IC and leave from base backdoor,maybe in 30sec -1 min

like now i buy a treasure Map and dig up in 3 min
https://youtu.be/8OwSfQOFzGY

90% what server do you play on 🤣

pc/na,last week is my 10000hour in eso
yes, i keep my view,i can nude go locked cyro and dig treasure Map too,but i am lazy to queue

aetherix8 · November 4

Treasure maps sites are far from objectives so any PvP is fairly unlikely, especially off hours.
Check all the campaigns to see if your faction is controlling the map, otherwise it is just a long ride (bit like a Murkmire treasure map).
Once you have your treasure you can queue for the IC for easy way out.

tomofhyrule · November 4

Also the Cyrodiil treasure maps are not at all worth the effort.

No leads, no special goodies. It's just a piece of Cyro gear that you can get from any of the quests or even from guild traders.

But yes, just wait for your alliance to own the map and then you're pretty well free to go. Or if you see the other alliances at one bar, then it's pretty empty.

Chrisilis · November 4

••When you die in Cyro you are asked where you want to revive. Jump off the nearest cliff or into Slaughterfish waters and spawn back at base by the wayshrine. Death really is the easiest way out.

••Go in the wee hours of a weekday or in the very early morning. You won't see a soul.

••Make the trip worth the effort. Go buy several duplicate maps at a Trader, Cyro maps are cheap. Dig up your treasure, Go 50 feet away and take another map from your mail. Wait a minute and dig it again since you're already there anyway. Repeat for as many maps as you've acquired.

Grafahel · November 4

I share your distaste for PvP, but to be fair the only times I've been to Cyrodiil was during events, doing scouting missions for tickets, and those few times it seems like you really need to be unlucky to run into enemy players. Now I did indeed always reload the mission until I got something close enough to a controlled outpost. but Cyrodiil is pretty big and most active players are near the battlezones, if you just stick to the wilderness and beeline it to your point there's a fair chance you won't even see another player.
Now I suppose since treasure maps are in fixed locations it is entirely possible there are trolls camping out there hoping to catch someone unawares, but it's worth a try at least.
Personally I've always sold Cyrodiil treasure maps, I have enough maps stacked up that I don't feel like I need to go in there.

DarkStrifeYT · November 4

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

...but I would like to. You see, I have had a Cyrodil Treasure Map in my Inventory for about a year now and I would like to go to Cyrodil and dig it up just to see what actual treasure it holds. But I have a few problems.

First problem, Cyrodil is a PvP zone and I do NOT PvP. Can I genuinely travel Cyrodil without needing to engage in PvP of ANY kind? I doubt it.

Second problem, I am Daggerfall Covenant and the dig site is on the FAR east (right hand) side of the zone. I've only been to Cyrodil twice and each time that area is NOT under Daggerfall control and I have never been to that side of the zone.

Third problem and probably the biggest one I have - I cannot recall out of Cyrodil unless I am at my faction's base camp. I know I can port within control points which might get me close or even back to Daggerfall base camp. But, I want to go dig up this treasure and then IMMEDIATELY port out of the zone. As far as I know, this is impossible. The ONLY workaround I have found for getting out of Cyrodil other than using the wayshrine at my faction's base camp is to queue for a dungeon, wait for the queue to pop, enter the dungeon and then leave the dungeon. I did this once on my second visit to Cyrodil and when I left the dungeon I was back in the "real" world and not stuck in Cyrodil.

I understand that some folks enjoy PvP and I say, "More power to you. It's important to do something you enjoy." I do NOT enjoy PvP. At all. Which is why I avoid it religiously. And I think those that enjoy PvP are grateful to me for NOT doing PvP but I could be wrong. /shrug

So. Any useful suggestions that might make a trip to Cyrodil to dig up this treasure quick and easy followed by a quick and easy exit? Please let me know your thoughts.

Thank you.

1) You don't have to pvp in cyro, infact majority of pvpers don't go after other players that are obviously completing the map or doing treasure chests, pvpers know the pain

2) Stealth is key to avoid combat.

3) cyro is ded, not big surprise.

frogthroat · November 4

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

I have had a Cyrodil Treasure Map in my Inventory for about a year now

Put it in a chest or your bank and pick it up with an EP toon?

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

I would like to go to Cyrodil and dig it up just to see what actual treasure it holds.

You'll be disappointed. But yeah, go for it.

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

Cyrodil is a PvP zone and I do NOT PvP. Can I genuinely travel Cyrodil without needing to engage in PvP of ANY kind? I doubt it.

Yes. If you hang around keeps or resources, you'll be attacked. If you go around doing PVE, questing, dolmens, treasure maps, fishing, you will most likely not meet anyone and even if you do, the will most likely ignore you.

I did the quests, dolmens and other PVE content there with just a normal (solo) PVE build. I even fished next to a blue sorc in a red zone, while I'm a banana myself.

There's also plenty of dailies to do. And if you are DC and have some extra AP, you can spend it in Bruma buying Deadly Strike boxes. That set is useful in PVE as well.

The dolmens are required for the dolmen achievement. The skyshards are required for the skyshard achievement. There's a lot to do in Cyrodiil besides PVP. (And if you see green glow in the ground, pick it up. That recipe is worth a lot.)

Don't worry if you get killed. You lose only time - even your gear won't degrade if you die to a player. And if you don't fight back some players will just ignore you anyway - some won't but who cares, just respawn at a keep and try again.

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

I am Daggerfall Covenant and the dig site is on the FAR east (right hand) side of the zone.

- Go during off-peak hours
- Go when DC dominates the map
- Go with an EP character

Horace-Wimp wrote: »

I cannot recall out of Cyrodil unless I am at my faction's base camp.

- Mostly I use the jump to IC trick. As in, queue to Imperial City and then either exit or queue back to Cyrodiil.
- You can get Keep Recall Stones that will port you to a keep wherever you are
- Die to a player and port to a keep (free taxi!)
- Die to environment, like slaughterfish and port to a keep (your gear will lose durability so dying to a player is preferred.)

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · November 4

In your world why does it matter whether the enemies you encounter on the way to the chest are PVE monsters or PVP monsters?
Just avoid them via stealth either way.

You're not entitled to the treasure map rewards if you don't want to go get it.

As other players have mentioned you can queue into IC or a Dungeon from anywhere within Cyrodiil (you could even queue to a BG and then instantly leave)

frogthroat · November 4

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

As other players have mentioned you can queue into IC or a Dungeon from anywhere within Cyrodiil (you could even queue to a BG and then instantly leave)

No no, queue to IC sure, but not to a dungeon via finder or BG if you plan to leave immediately. Pick the lowest pop IC campaign and queue there.

There is no need to make a dungeon group's or a BG group's run any worse just because you couldn't bother to queue via IC.

Taggund · November 4

Choose a campaign other than Grayhost and you'll likely not see anyone, and those that you do see will likely ignore you as it is a good chance they're doing similar.

Another option to porting to IC to leave is using /stuck to port back to your factions entrance.

Dojohoda · November 4

Cyrodiil chests can drop alliance style pages. The alliance of the character you are using when you open the chest will determine the alliance of the style page should one drops. It's something to consider when going on the effort to use Cyrodiil maps.

As others have said, it's easy to leave Cyrodiil. You may leave by causing a death port or queuing into Imperial City and then walking out the exit. The nicest part about walking out the Exit in Imperial City is that your character will be ported to the last location you were at in overland.

aetherix8 · November 4

Grafahel wrote: »

Now I suppose since treasure maps are in fixed locations it is entirely possible there are trolls camping out there hoping to catch someone unawares, but it's worth a try at least.

Perhaps during an event there might be some totally mad ganker having nothing better to do but to wait for ages for this one PvEer going to pick up their treasure. I don’t think so though, everyone knows the best ganking spots are towns and their quest givers.
Chances of crossing enemy player at a map location are 0.0001 - if another player goes to pick the same map at exactly the same time.

Orbital78 · November 4

I have at least one alt for every faction, Ravenwatch and no faction lock campaigns usually are mostly controlled by one faction. Go in as that faction. It is rare I see anyone let alone someone bothers killing me when doing maps.

frogthroat · November 4

aetherix8 wrote: »

Grafahel wrote: »

Now I suppose since treasure maps are in fixed locations it is entirely possible there are trolls camping out there hoping to catch someone unawares, but it's worth a try at least.

Perhaps during an event there might be some totally mad ganker having nothing better to do but to wait for ages for this one PvEer going to pick up their treasure. I don’t think so though, everyone knows the best ganking spots are towns and their quest givers.
Chances of crossing enemy player at a map location are 0.0001 - if another player goes to pick the same map at exactly the same time.

Yeah, during an event the sad gankers are in towns waiting for PVE players to return daily quests.

I have never even thought anyone would be so bored that instead of waiting in a town, they wait in a treasure map location. They would probably have to wait for days for anyone to come around. So no, I also do not see that happening. Ever.

Towns outside of Mayhem, maybe. Unlikely, but maybe. At least I have never seen one.
Towns during Mayhem, absolutely. Lots of sub-par gankers who can't gank a PVP player try to gank PVE players.

Unfadingsilence · November 4

Renato90085 wrote: »

1.90% time cyro is a dead zone,you hard found other player
2.you can put treasure Map in bank and swap other toon
3.you can queue and port to IC and leave from base backdoor,maybe in 30sec -1 min

like now i buy a treasure Map and dig up in 3 min
https://youtu.be/8OwSfQOFzGY

90% what server do you play on 🤣

Renato90085 wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

1.90% time cyro is a dead zone,you hard found other player
2.you can put treasure Map in bank and swap other toon
3.you can queue and port to IC and leave from base backdoor,maybe in 30sec -1 min

like now i buy a treasure Map and dig up in 3 min
https://youtu.be/8OwSfQOFzGY

90% what server do you play on 🤣

pc/na,last week is my 10000hour in eso
yes, i keep my view,i can nude go locked cyro and dig treasure Map too,but i am lazy to queue

So you go to a dead campaign.That's what you're saying, you don't go to gray host. Okay got it

Renato90085 · November 4

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

1.90% time cyro is a dead zone,you hard found other player
2.you can put treasure Map in bank and swap other toon
3.you can queue and port to IC and leave from base backdoor,maybe in 30sec -1 min

like now i buy a treasure Map and dig up in 3 min
https://youtu.be/8OwSfQOFzGY

90% what server do you play on 🤣

Renato90085 wrote: »

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

Renato90085 wrote: »

1.90% time cyro is a dead zone,you hard found other player
2.you can put treasure Map in bank and swap other toon
3.you can queue and port to IC and leave from base backdoor,maybe in 30sec -1 min

like now i buy a treasure Map and dig up in 3 min
https://youtu.be/8OwSfQOFzGY

90% what server do you play on 🤣

pc/na,last week is my 10000hour in eso
yes, i keep my view,i can nude go locked cyro and dig treasure Map too,but i am lazy to queue

So you go to a dead campaign.That's what you're saying, you don't go to gray host. Okay got it

can you explain what's the difference?
because in my time zone ,every day my play time(8-12 hour+), gray host only first 1-2 hour will full,other 7-10 hour like other campaign, only low too
i have many(8+) time run pve toon and walk in cyro to take mage guild book(i main use mora mythic) and never see any player
gray host for me all is a dead campaign too,maybe only in weeked will full more longer time
or main campaign every day have 12-14+ hour is 0/0/0 is very lively.

because 90% time for me .gray host look like this too:

Vaqual · November 4

Hire a guarded expedition.

Overbowed · November 4

You are overthinking this. Just mount up and ride over there. If you die once or twice it will still only be like a 20 minute adventure. Most dungeons take longer.

There is no difference between dying to a PVE mob vs. PVP player in this game besides the respawn location. Que to Imperial City to leave instantly afterwards.

Katheriah · November 4

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO wrote: »

(you could even queue to a BG and then instantly leave)

Seriously why would you give this advice. Just don't. People who do this deserve bad RNG for the rest of their time on Nirn.

AcadianPaladin · November 4

Hopefully you have a fast mount. Choose a campaign in Cyrodiil with a low population and go to Cyrodiil. Put a map marker on your treasure map so the direction to it is clear. Then port to one of your alliance's forts as close to the map marker as you can get. Then mount up and ride (fast) via a route that avoids enemy forts. When you need to study the map, dismount and sneak while you do so. Then mount up and continue. Basically just like doing a Cyrodiil scouting mission. Following these procedures should give you a 95% chance of no PvP encounters.

onyxorb · November 4

You have nothing to lose in Cyro, other than the time to spawn to the nearest keep if you somehow die while on your way to the map. If you crouch and just sneak the whole way you're in enemy territory, it will be easy enough to get to the map.
Boring? yes.
Huge time burner? yes.
But you'll get your map done and off your checklist.

Just remember, if you queue into IC as the fast exit route, make sure to use the correct door to exit the IC campaign.
You don't want to accidentally go into the sewers with telvar on you (that you CAN lose).

Good Luck, hope you find something that works for you.

Hapexamendios · November 4

Honestly I wouldn't bother. Not worth it imo.

ArchMikem · November 4

Cyrodiil is a PvP zone, but it has its established thoroughfares players travel on, typically straight lines between the keeps. You can very easily navigate around them and never see a single enemy player. If your destination is deep in enemy held land, then you'll basically be the only one over there. Enemy players use the transitus shrines to get from the gate to where the fights are. Again, you'll most likely see no one.

Once you've gotten the treasure dig done, you can simply find the nearest enemy Keep or Resource Camp and let the NPC guards attack you. We call that death spawning, let's you revive immediately back at your own gate.

thegreatme · November 4

As a 99% of the time PvE/housing/roleplay player, going into Cyro isn't half as bad as you would think it is. The map is huge. Most players congregate around Keeps and towns (i.e. quest points and capture objectives).

Just ride off of main routes (most of the map is "off-route" tbh), stay away from keeps and whatever, use imperial city to port out or deliberately die and respawn at the wayshrine.

I literally just did the "catch all the rare fish types" achievements in both Cyrodiil and Imperial City, which took... probably a full day.

Never once saw a single enemy player in Cyrodiil in all that time.

IC is arguably much more hazardous because all of the fishing spots are literally right on top of district flags (capture points). Imperial City, I only got killed by the same 3 toxic players who were farm-killing everyone and sticking together as a group, and I think they only killed me like 5 times in the ~8+ hours I was there fishing out in the open.

All the other enemy PvPers saw I was fishing and left me alone. One even thought it was funny to swim around inside my fishing spot and we emote bowed to each other before they went on their way.

Trust me, completing a single treasure map in Cyro isn't really that scary, especially when its not Midyear Mayhem time.

Katahdin · November 5

Use a character that is the faction the treasure map is closest to base/keeps owned by if you can

Go to a dead/less populated campaign

Fast horse, run and collect the treasure

Port to IC

Done

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silentxthreat · November 5

you can log in to a low pop server like ravenhost and do it there. there is always a risk but low risk of pvp but us pvp'ers have very few things going for us.

Its_MySniff · November 5

As everyone is saying, it's not that big of a deal. It's somewhat fun being on edge waiting to be ganked in a delve. I've done everything in cyro on multiple toons. You can do it, woohooo.

zaria · November 5

aetherix8 wrote: »

Grafahel wrote: »

Now I suppose since treasure maps are in fixed locations it is entirely possible there are trolls camping out there hoping to catch someone unawares, but it's worth a try at least.

Perhaps during an event there might be some totally mad ganker having nothing better to do but to wait for ages for this one PvEer going to pick up their treasure. I don’t think so though, everyone knows the best ganking spots are towns and their quest givers.
Chances of crossing enemy player at a map location are 0.0001 - if another player goes to pick the same map at exactly the same time.

This, I did Cyrodil master angler without getting killed once, even fished with an enemy.

More so mornings is you friend, usually some guilds take over the low population mornings and take the map.
Now you can fast travel most places and its very safe. An smart tricks is to have various alts having different home campaigns, now you can see the status on the map.