Announcement: I will continue to concede

AnduinTryggva · November 1

If some believe that any time penalty will keep me from conceding a lost match in ToT, be my guest. I will do it anyway because it is a completely SANE decision and ABSOLUTELY NORMAL in ANY card game in REAL life.
Considering that ToT even does not have a REAL rng behavior when dishing out cards in the tavern or into the hand of a player it adds to the outrageous decision to maintain a time penalty on concessions.

I mean get your rng right for a card game and then we can talk again about time penalties. When a card game is lost during the initial roll of a rng seed I beg your pardon ...

Onomog · November 1

What I've been doing, once it's clear to me that the game is unwinnable for me, is, rather than concede (which would be the rational thing to do, I agree) I play to lose. I can avoid the penalty that way.

Dalsinthus · November 1

Onomog wrote: »

What I've been doing, once it's clear to me that the game is unwinnable for me, is, rather than concede (which would be the rational thing to do, I agree) I play to lose. I can avoid the penalty that way.

Yup. Just end your turn without playing any cards and repeat until your opponent wins.

Calastir · November 1

Like a lot of parts in this game, It's often so lopsided it's not even funny.

SeaGtGruff · November 1

I rarely play against other players-- only when there's an endeavor to do so-- but occasionally I lose to the NPCs, and usually it is pretty obvious after the first turn or two that I don't stand much of a chance. I always play the rest of the match anyway, and try my best to pull off a miracle-- which sometimes does happen. And on the rare times when I'm playing against a player, I'll play the match through to the end, even if it looks like I'm going to lose. It's s card game, and randomness is a major part of it, so you can't be absolutely certain of the outcome from just the first turn or two.

AnduinTryggva · November 2

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

I rarely play against other players-- only when there's an endeavor to do so-- but occasionally I lose to the NPCs, and usually it is pretty obvious after the first turn or two that I don't stand much of a chance. I always play the rest of the match anyway, and try my best to pull off a miracle-- which sometimes does happen. And on the rare times when I'm playing against a player, I'll play the match through to the end, even if it looks like I'm going to lose. It's s card game, and randomness is a major part of it, so you can't be absolutely certain of the outcome from just the first turn or two.

My point is that the "randomnes" in ToT is not really randomness. Its randomness is pretty limited.

In ESO environment this limitation on randomness makes fully sense when players loot and grind for stuff. It keeps frustration levels within certain limits because the probability that a player will farm and farm and farm without ANY rewards is much lower in this way.

However, they transposed this system to ToT and while it may be acceptable against NPC, it has zero place in a match against another player.

vuwuv · 9:55AM

Time penalty protects against unlimited box farm.

While RNG can be pretty rough, often there is a chance even if initial turns are not in your favor - you can get some goods draws a bit later. Also when person becomes certain in their win, they may start making mistakes, particularly if not top tier player.