Were you able to successfully get into large-scale battles?

Yes, PC EU. AD zergling reporting in o7

Did large-scale battles feel better latency-wise and how combat feels (responsive or not, fun or not, etc.)?

No comparison to live Cyro because this was my first week in AvA. I had a lot of fun, everything was responsive. No problems bar swapping, breaking free or using the quick slot items. Played every evening last week, can't wait for the next one in December.

What you think of the simplified abilities?

I liked not having to level skill lines to try different setups. I did miss some morph choices on NB - like the ranged class execute.

Did any of your characters become ‘corrupted’ (...)?

No.

What are your initial thoughts on Vengeance Test?

Very fun at first, after a week it's still fun but siege felt too dragged out. Maybe it's because of the infinite siege weapons. Also, everyone is just really tanky. Good for slow-paced learning, but I can see where the complainers are coming from.

Do you have any general feedback?

I liked it, but there is room for improvement:

• Add Yakety Sax bgm override to towers.
• Sustain was just bad. Leeching Strikes made it bearable. Hiding and spamming it to get magicka was awkward.
• Mistakes should be a little harder to recover from. Letting my defense buffs fall off and ignoring my health bar should have killed me more times than it did.
• Add recall stones for the next test.

• Were you able to successfully get into large-scale battles?

Played most evenings but only saw one big battle with all three factions.

• Did large-scale battles feel better latency-wise and how combat feels (responsive or not, fun or not, etc.)?

Tri-faction fight (Sat ~8:45EST at Ash, PCNA) was playable but very choppy some of the time with stuttering frames and music. Venturing into the breach with a ton of siege and skills aimed at my head was like walking into a stop-motion film with more stop than motion.
Two faction fights were mostly fine, just 2-3 second freezes here and there, maybe once every few minutes.
Definitely better than regular Cyro. Not as good as the first Vengeance test, but I never felt like it was unplayable.

• What you think of the simplified abilities?

As a mostly melee brawler I'm fine with simplifying skills, although right now a lot of skills feel useless for anything other than tagging enemies for assists. I think most of the skills would feel better if players were less tanky and healing wasn't so high.
Even so, small scale fights felt much more fun than with the first test, after I got some help with a Vengeance-specific build.

• Did any of your characters become ‘corrupted’ if they leave Cyrodiil mid battle, lost connection, got booted, hit lag, etc? If you encounter character corruption, please provide the following feedback when using /bug in-game.

No.

• What are your initial thoughts on Vengeance Test?

I appreciate Vengeance as a means to make Cyrodiil more approachable and have better performance, both of which it clearly needs to thrive.

As for Vengeance in it's current state... it can be really fun when a lot of players are online, but it only works well with equal numbers (since there's not much counterplay for being outnumbered, nothing to do solo while you wait for more people to log in, population gaps are even wider than normal due to higher pop caps, etc). It's a drag to test something meant for zerg-vs-zerg when no zergs show up... or only one does.

• Do you have any general feedback?

-It's fun to be able to group up with strangers and know you'll be able to accomplish something. In regular Cyro PUGs are useless against ball groups so it often feels like there's no point playing solo or with PUGs, it's comped group or bust.

-I don't miss ball groups but I do miss gankers and bombers lol. They add a bit of spice.

-Guards are too OP. Obviously they're fine when you're with a group but there weren't always enough players for multiple groups this time. Only having enough players online to defend a single keep from a more populated faction, and not being able to spare enough people to uncut RSS because no one can solo them, is pretty lame.

-I played Cyrodiil for a stupidly long time before I noticed about low pop bonuses. I'm not even sure how the game teaches you about it since I clearly missed it, but maybe make it more obvious. Might help encourage balanced populations if newer players know about it from the get-go.

Were you able to successfully get into large-scale battles?

One or two. Mostly not because without the usual bribes of GP the population was really low.

Did large-scale battles feel better latency-wise and how combat feels (responsive or not, fun or not, etc.)?

Skills took a while to fire. There's really no combat. It's just zerg v zerg. Either you have numbers or you don't.

What you think of the simplified abilities?

They suck.

Did any of your characters become ‘corrupted’ if they leave Cyrodiil mid battle, lost connection, got booted, hit lag, etc?

No.

What are your initial thoughts on Vengeance Test?

You ask this like you intend to make it a campaign instead of the test it's supposed to be. I don't want vengeance as a campaign.

Do you have any general feedback?

Without the bribes there was low pop. This round was super boring. I didn't even bother to go for as many days as last time.

Vengeance is a waste of our time and money. Cut your losses ASAP. Throw vengeance into the bin and flush it where it belongs.

Karkas_76 wrote: »

Every morning the same s.., everything yellow...
Sorry, but when the maps (overnight, always yellow) you have to play blue and red against yellow...
I'm not having any fun at all these days, always fighting with 3-4 people against overwhelming yellow...
It's definitely fun to wait for the red or blue attacks as yellow... (irony off)
Locked campaigns are for the ABCD....

I'd like to play ESO as a "non-pro" gamer, but it's no longer fun like this. There are too many who destroy everything with 2-3 actions... I don't understand how you can do so much damage, but I do almost no damage to them...?!?
LTP is no good at my age!

This feedback thread is for Vengeance test campaign not for GreyHost or other regular campaign. In Vengeance your skills would do the same dmg as the skills from everyone else, in normal campaigns they scale with your offensive stats and you need good build for your actions to matter. You should either get a good build from some programer or wait for next Vengeance test in 3 month.

ADawg wrote: »

Initial thoughts: why? why take away everyone's build to force them into a cookie cutter style of play? I don't want to hear its a test, we have a PTS for that.

Lol, this meta forced everyone to play the same way. At least here, you can actually choose different build options, and they're all more or less effective.

Post Vengeance I have been getting kicked out on a regular basis now. The ping does not jump but I just get kicked to PVE.
What has changed? Booted from Server And here I am back in the queue.
I get back in after being in position 23, 30 minutes later, get back in. Run to a combat zone, nothing is moving I am zipping around.
Freeze and I am booted again.

Very frustrating. After the first vengeance, performance was so much better!

The next time vengeance is mandated with no alternative to play real PvP I plan to uninstall ESO.

No reason to stick around if ZOS is going to take away the reason I log on in the first place.

@ZOS_Kevin