ercknn wrote: »

Create a campaign as dlc that is only PvE, new quests, story, etc in cyrodil.

Keep greyhost as is.

Why do they need to remove something or change something.

Just add MORE.

Speaking of PvP. Just add old bg’s back.
Again, that was something that was replaced.

Nothing should ever be replaced. Just add more stuff.
We gamers like more stuff 👍

yes! that kinda campaign would be awesome as an addition

cyclonus11 wrote: »

I think PVP should kept, but updated:

Now that the planemeld has ended, the daedra lose control of the Imperials of Cyrodiil and Imperial City. The Imperials (and those who choose to ally with them) then regroup to eliminate the remaining daedra and work to push out the invading alliances.

Proposal: Update PVP to add a fourth alliance. For Cyrodiil, have their base in the center surrounding Imperial City, but with no keeps to themselves - they have to capture the keeps from the alliances.

For Imperial City, have the faction around the tower in the center. From there, they have to push outward to capture the districts.

Honestly, Cyrodil is so much about pushing and holding the map when the other alliances aren't playing. So much so that having a "night crew" is really all the difference in any individual campaign. You can still own prime time, but you will still lose the campaign if you don't have a good night crew. This puts the emphasis on a small handfull of players putting in a TON of hours to win a campaign.

I'd like to see it where if the server population drops below a certain threshhold, the Imperials push out and retake the map so NOBODY has the advantage of holding the map when there aren't enough players to actually fight over objectives. That way, players don't have to worry about going and running a night crew to be competitive in a campaign.

The only reason for this war is an excuse for PvP.
From here on out, it will never end and it makes no sense.

DarkStrifeYT wrote: »

PvP populations even prior to the undaunted/vengeance events has been low and isn't like when it was years ago where there would be massive battles has died down to small groups taking keeps. With how the story currently is should cyro's pvp be removed, kept as it is, or have a suggestion that would help bring cyro back alive.

Edit:
I also should make it clear, this is mainly based on how the story is going and not just on pvp population being lowered. I myself want to see cyro keep going but made this poll out of curiosity to see how others feel about cyro and maybe bunch together a bunch of suggestions. Seeing that at the time of this edit that there is 0 votes for removal actually makes me happy to see that people still want it. This isn't about removing it entirely.


Also a bit of a theory Is the campaign called Vengeance a hint of the future story of ESOs next chapter?
(Not taking server performance into this, just cyro in general)

No, the 3 Banners War should not end. The writers should find a way to embroil the entirety of ESO in the War. Connect the game. Add long term escalating loyalty rewards to each Alliance (increasing month over month, year over year and come from the Kings and Queen).

Add new quests and rewards from the Thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood that contribute to each Alliance's War effort (DC currently enjoys an overwhelming advantage in Cold fires in the market due to Cyro dolmen placement, this should end). The devs should let the players select Cyrodiil scroll quests from a menu.

Make enemy banners change to Grey and Yellow/Blue/Red for 1 campaign when players transfer Alliances (or some similar mechanic).

Let players opt-in to long term escalating Alliance loyalty rewards systems that increase month by month over 1 year, and then multiple years.

Get the Gods, Daedra and deity's involved and make their presence known through story and character manipulation as well as Alliance specific rewards.

Let towns people and NPCs make comments specific to the player's character based on Alliance and the state of the Campaigns.

Add stairs to both sides of the gates, or add water (slaughter fish) or lava features under them and make them destructible like the Alessia bridge.

Add more weapons, colors, pets and mount skins variations specific to each Alliance, to the Crown store.

ZOS should drop in more weapons to counter the Hammer - Maybe a resto to heal or rez the dead in droves or a shield that makes a wall or barrier to protect, etc. 1 Alliance per weapon, make a mechanic to make it fair.

Make player choices matter - You shouldn't be a Vampire or Werewolf AND feel welcome in the Fighters Guild. The Fighters Guild abilities should grey out and become unusable, the NPC guild masters should note and comment on your choice. They should let you know there are consequences in Cyrodiil. Make it a sub-War.

Add a mechanic to lower the central bridges in Cyrodiil, give us a central tower fight in Zone and add unique rewards for each level an Alliance ascends...
Do something fun, go back to the Original intro video and build some excitement. The game's Gods are boring lately and feel disconnected. War intrigue and drama is an old, simple concept with tons of room for complexity.

It's not really much to do in Cyrodil outside of PvP. Yes its quests outside the town and PvP dailies.
Here is the list
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Cyrodiil#Wilderness_Quests
And none is very interesting.

Last'One wrote: »

DarkStrifeYT wrote: »

reazea wrote: »

Should all PvE be eliminated from ESO? Sounds great to me so maybe I should make a poll too.

Tempted to do that, nothing but open world pvp from here on


Its mostly just out of curiosity and a discussion. Especially with how the story is going but who knows could be a new war in the future.

I really don’t know about that, but I truly believe that if ZOS removed PvP from ESO, PvE would be 100% better for sure.

Except for all of the players who actually enjoy PvP. You would be basically reaching into their Steam library and deleting the game for them.

LPapirius wrote: »

Last'One wrote: »

DarkStrifeYT wrote: »

reazea wrote: »

Should all PvE be eliminated from ESO? Sounds great to me so maybe I should make a poll too.

Tempted to do that, nothing but open world pvp from here on


Its mostly just out of curiosity and a discussion. Especially with how the story is going but who knows could be a new war in the future.

I really don’t know about that, but I truly believe that if ZOS removed PvP from ESO, PvE would be 100% better for sure.

PvE will be removed shortly after PvP is removed is how that will play out.

I feel like there are a lot of soloist players who are convinced that ESO will be better once all of those pesky PvP and toxic PvE players all leave. They really think that the game will thrive by focusing on solo stuff.

You know, just like Legends.

And like Legends, ESO runs on servers. Which means when Microsoft does decide to pull the plug, it’s gone. I can still play Morrowind since that was all local… but Legends now exists only as card art on UESP.

Story wise, the 3 banners war kinda already has ended, PVE-gameplay wise it ended with One Tamriel.
That doesn't mean Cyrodiil pvp should be removed, that we have a new emperor every few hours is gameplay, not lore.

I'm fine with adding a post-war cyrodiil PVE zone, though, like an expansion where you help deal with the aftermath. If you need some lore connection to your PVP, it still can be framed as a war veteran's reminiscences.

WoW had even less reason for a faction war for quite some time now, it simply exists as a gameplay mode.
SWTOR's war rekindled recently, for a while they treated PVP as training exercises, also helps with population imbalance.
GW2 was smart: The 3 factions are from parallel universes (used to be servers), all invading a proto world for its resources.

Should PvE be removed from the game with the next update?

How is this thread still open and not closed for baiting/trolling?

The Three Banners War is stupid storywise. Fighting over a throne while Molag Bol is trying to enslave your people is a bad decision. Nearly everyone who used to kive in the Imperial City or Cyrodill is dead ir has fled so it is only "I want to be Emperor."

My suggestion is to kill the war and replace it with something better. For example, maybe Meridia shields Cyrodill from Molag Bol and the fight becomes about securing territory for your refugee populations. Everything stays the same, but the war is about protecting people not a throne.