Joining the Undaunted on an AD character can be agony

SeaGtGruff · September 18

Talk to Turuk Redclaws in Vulkhel Guard-- easy peasy.

Go find The Banished Cells I dungeon and enter it-- a right royal pain in the posterior if you haven't got the wayshrines in northern Auridon yet, because you must ride a long way and there are several places where you're basically blocked from getting through.

In contrast, reaching the dungeons in Glenumbra and Stonefalls are a breeze because there are no such quest-blocked areas to get past.

Onomog · September 18

The way I dealt with those blocked areas was to go to the beach & swim the coast line until I got to the dungeon. Kind of a pain, but what else is new in Tamriel /shrug

jle30303 · September 18

Ignore that and use the Dungeon Finder. You get automatically teleported there, and get to do the dungeon - and probably get a skill point too (unless they rush so fast that you don't get to start the quest)...

jle30303 · September 18

Also, there ARE NO quest-blocked areas in Auridon. There are areas where you may have to fight your way through against mobs (e.g. on the road through Dawnbreak), but you can literally ride all the way there. Nothing is actually "blocked".

Well, the far end of the bridge leading to Rilis's isle is blocked by three skeletons, who are initially non-hostile but you can kill them anyway.

LunaFlora · September 18

why go to Vulkhel Guard if the other places are easier?
i always go to Rosy Lion inn in Daggerfall regardless of my characters' pvp alliance.

alternatelder · September 18

jle30303 wrote: »

Also, there ARE NO quest-blocked areas in Auridon. There are areas where you may have to fight your way through against mobs (e.g. on the road through Dawnbreak), but you can literally ride all the way there. Nothing is actually "blocked".

Well, the far end of the bridge leading to Rilis's isle is blocked by three skeletons, who are initially non-hostile but you can kill them anyway.

I'm thinking op took a wrong turn mid-Auridon at a fork (West) to the last quest area (Firsthold-which has locked doors if you didn't start main quest). If they went straight up it goes to the northern most wayshrine and north of that is a quick jog to Banished Cells. As you said, nothing locked behind a quest that you NEED to get to.

Mik195 · September 18

I start all my characters in Daggerfall no matter the alliance. The table with the Undaunted members isa right outside the inn room.

Also, for new people who arent aware, you don't need to do the dungeon, just walk in to it and then you can report success.

SeaGtGruff · September 18

When I said "quest-blocked," I said "blocked" rather than "locked" because I was aware that you are not "locked out" of getting into and through those areas. But they are a right royal pain in the posterior to ride through on a lowbie character who doesn't have a lot of awesome skills or high-level gear yet. I meant "blocked" as in hostile NPCs or Daedric mobs trying to get in your way. You can get past them, but riding from Vulkhel Guard to The Banished Cells isn't a "cake walk" like riding from Daggerfall to Spindleclutch or from Davon's Watch to Fungal Grotto (and "cake walk" is a deliberate exaggeration).

I realize that in a normal situation an AD character would likely have played their way through Auridon from south to north and discovered all of the wayshrines by the time they were able to join the Undaunted, but the AD characters I was doing this on haven't played through Auridon yet, and got to their current levels primarily by doing daily crafting writs.

Anyway, it's enough to make me feel sorry for AD players and what they have to go through-- until I go to Cyrodiil, and then I'm not sorry for them anymore.

alternatelder · September 18

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

When I said "quest-blocked," I said "blocked" rather than "locked" because I was aware that you are not "locked out" of getting into and through those areas. But they are a right royal pain in the posterior to ride through on a lowbie character who doesn't have a lot of awesome skills or high-level gear yet. I meant "blocked" as in hostile NPCs or Daedric mobs trying to get in your way. You can get past them, but riding from Vulkhel Guard to The Banished Cells isn't a "cake walk" like riding from Daggerfall to Spindleclutch or from Davon's Watch to Fungal Grotto (and "cake walk" is a deliberate exaggeration).

I realize that in a normal situation an AD character would likely have played their way through Auridon from south to north and discovered all of the wayshrines by the time they were able to join the Undaunted, but the AD characters I was doing this on haven't played through Auridon yet, and got to their current levels primarily by doing daily crafting writs.

Anyway, it's enough to make me feel sorry for AD players and what they have to go through-- until I go to Cyrodiil, and then I'm not sorry for them anymore.

There's literally nothing hard about riding on a road for 98% of the trip to the northern wayshrine, you are not required to fight through any mobs, and there is nothing that could possibly block your way, or one shot you. You're making something out of nothing. Not to mention, riding to Spindleclutch is actually "worse" for a new player, that dungeon is in the middle of a lot more mobs you'd run into than in Auridon, lots of werewolves in that area. Is this just an AD hate post? None of it makes sense.

SilverIce58 · September 18

Isnt Spindleclutch the same distance away basically as BC? I dont understand how difficult it would be to ride past mobs. Just literally keep moving and if there are mobs still following you when you get there, just hold block so they attack once and run back. Literally making a mountain out of a molehill tbh.

LootAllTheStuff · September 18

This one killed all the mobs along the way, because this one is... Undaunted.{1}

Agreed that it's a bit of a pain due to the distance, and that it can be awkward if you go to the wrong side. Especially when compared to the others. AD also seems to have more maps with major geographical obstacles overall, especially on the mainland. It'd be nice if there was a little more consistency between the alliances in terms of ease of getting to things like the initial Undaunted dungeons and dolmens,

{1} Actually, I'd levelled up to 50 before starting the Undaunted quest on that character!

Vulkunne · September 18

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Talk to Turuk Redclaws in Vulkhel Guard-- easy peasy.

Go find The Banished Cells I dungeon and enter it-- a right royal pain in the posterior if you haven't got the wayshrines in northern Auridon yet, because you must ride a long way and there are several places where you're basically blocked from getting through.

In contrast, reaching the dungeons in Glenumbra and Stonefalls are a breeze because there are no such quest-blocked areas to get past.

It was harrible. EP's setup for this is so much better. Like by alot. Quite frankly anything else would be better.

katanagirl1 · September 19

Maybe you rode through Dawnbreak, which has a few daedra and possibly took a wrong turn through North Point, which is heavy with mobs. If you decided to take the fork through Greenwater Cove it has a lot of mobs, but that way is longer and you’d have to ride through Firsthold too, which is hostile. The rest of the map is fairly safe along the roads.

I guess if you consider the whole path from Vulkhel Guard where the inn is located to Banished Cells, it is a long ride. Spindleclutch is a long ride from Daggerfall though as well, and so is Fungal Grotto from Davon’s Watch.

Syldras · September 19

Mounts can swim now. If you want to avoid roads, just ride through the river.

SeaGtGruff · September 19

Yes, I did take a wrong turn or two.

Yes, I tried to go by coastline as much as possible, but ran into at least one place where my mount and I were eaten by the slaughterfish.

Yes, the distance in Stonefalls and Glenumbra is also bad, but I have Kragenhome in Stonefalls and the Exorcised Coven Cottage in Glenumbra, so even without my EP and DC lowbie alts having all of the wayshrines on the map yet they could still port to those houses to considerably shorten the journey. In contrast, the closest home to The Banished Cells in Auridon is the Barbed Hook Private Room, although Mathisen Manor is almost as good to port to for this purpose-- but either way, you must then ride or swim more than half the length of Auridon to reach the dungeon, so the trip is definitely much longer (and fraught with more danger, especially to a lowbie alt).

Anyway, I was trying to make a light-hearted post, and had no idea you all would make such a big deal about it. Sheesh.

katanagirl1 · September 20

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Yes, I did take a wrong turn or two.

Yes, I tried to go by coastline as much as possible, but ran into at least one place where my mount and I were eaten by the slaughterfish.

Yes, the distance in Stonefalls and Glenumbra is also bad, but I have Kragenhome in Stonefalls and the Exorcised Coven Cottage in Glenumbra, so even without my EP and DC lowbie alts having all of the wayshrines on the map yet they could still port to those houses to considerably shorten the journey. In contrast, the closest home to The Banished Cells in Auridon is the Barbed Hook Private Room, although Mathisen Manor is almost as good to port to for this purpose-- but either way, you must then ride or swim more than half the length of Auridon to reach the dungeon, so the trip is definitely much longer (and fraught with more danger, especially to a lowbie alt).

Anyway, I was trying to make a light-hearted post, and had no idea you all would make such a big deal about it. Sheesh.

Nah, I didn’t mean to make a big deal about it, I was just trying to see if it really was much worse that the other factions. Sorry.

Necrotech_Master · September 20

ive only played AD characters, and never really found it to be that much hassle lol

if you have the barbed hook inn house thats in skywatch in auridon, thats already halfway to the top of the map, and with the changes to mounts to make lower trained mounts faster, its nowhere near as bad as it used to be

theres also methods like beam me up, or asking someone in guild or zone for a taxi to the nearby wayshrine if its that much inconvenience

SilverBride · September 20

Maybe I am overlooking something, but why not ask a friend for a ride to the close wayshrine?