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So will we be ever getting Quests/Skills where Aedra show them self to use or use some of their power to help us ?

if the Deadric princess have Deadra as their minions i imagine Aedra have their minions like Angels or humanoid spieces with extreme power i wonder how would they look like !
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    Well, I mean, the base game main quest… ahah. Aedra do not have as much direct influence over Nirn these days because they’re increasingly getting weaker while the Daedra are not. There are Aedric “minions” I guess, such as Akatosh’ dragons, but I don’t know of very many.
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    Soarora wrote: »
    Well, I mean, the base game main quest… ahah. Aedra do not have as much direct influence over Nirn these days because they’re increasingly getting weaker while the Daedra are not. There are Aedric “minions” I guess, such as Akatosh’ dragons, but I don’t know of very many.
    but they are mostly evil and don't do anyting good :disappointed:

    i mean some good being, how come they getting weaker ? can't they recover ?
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    (picture of Alkosh sleeping, a giant gold dragon laying on sand)
    the Aedra are asleep, they're not giving us anything
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    Soarora wrote: »
    Well, I mean, the base game main quest… ahah. Aedra do not have as much direct influence over Nirn these days because they’re increasingly getting weaker while the Daedra are not. There are Aedric “minions” I guess, such as Akatosh’ dragons, but I don’t know of very many.
    but they are mostly evil and don't do anyting good :disappointed:

    i mean some good being, how come they getting weaker ? can't they recover ?

    That’s not necessarily true. While we may view the drakes to be evil due to their conquering nature, the jills (female dragons, never shown in any game) are said to be the ones who fix Dragon Breaks (when one timeline splits and multiple things happen at once, the Jills force the timelines back into one again).

    The Aedra are named as (in direct translation) “our Ancestor”. They are getting weaker because Nirn—the planet we are on—is absorbing their magic. Such is how Nirn was created. I believe in the end, their magic will be sucked dry one day. In mythology at least, they used to be present creatures like Daedra but now all we have are artifacts and blessings.

    Its also hard to really fit Daedra and Aedra into good and evil. Akatosh, for example, is born of Padomay AND Anu (the dark and the light). Stendarr could be considered evil if you’re a vampire or a werewolf. Azura is generally not considered to be evil even though she is a Daedra. Meridia may be considered evil or may not be but she doesn’t even have a Padomaic origin, she may even be Anuic.
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    So will we be ever getting Quests/Skills where Aedra show them self to use or use some of their power to help us ?
    No, they lost that power when it was used to create Mundus.

    That‘s basically the difference between Aedra and Daedra:
    The deities we now call Aedra gave their power to create Mundus and the Daedra didn‘t. That‘s why Daedra can actually show up and have influence over Nirn and Aedra no longer can do it.

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    i thought creating nirn only took part of their power and thats it...

    also not all Aedra - though i don''t know if Rhajin and Talos are considered as Aedra are in full power no ?

    or Sithis and Padame ?
    I will always need for more classes in the game... Monk Kung Fu Khajit - with martial art staff and straw hat, Alchemist - throwing bombs and potions , Bard as support rather then healer, and Arificer and Arifact collector of alyed and dwemer ruins
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    The vast majority of Aedra gave themselves entirely to the creation of Mundus, the Divines are basically the outliers, having been the "strongest" ones capable of at least leaving something of their own selves in existence, and even still being bound to the mortal plane with their physical bodies forming the planets that orbit Nirn.

    The Aedra do not meddle in mortal affairs, in large part thanks to losing most of their power, though they supposedly did walk Nirn back in the Dawn Era. And those et'Ada that did not become bound to Mundus - Magnus and his followers - don't really seem to want to meddle either. The Magna Ge would be the closest thing to "angels" or celestial beings that would act as a counterpart to the lesser Daedra, but as I've just stated, they don't really seem fond of meddling. Magnus is said to have been disgusted by Mundus and ordered the project to be terminated, so that is a likely reason as to why they distance themselves from mortal affairs.

    In short, as has already been stated by others, we likely are not going to get to see or interact with the Aedra in any meaningful ways. Perhaps a brief and cryptic encounter with a mortal avatar of one of them, but that's the most we'd get.
    i thought creating nirn only took part of their power and thats it...

    also not all Aedra - though i don''t know if Rhajin and Talos are considered as Aedra are in full power no ?

    or Sithis and Padame ?

    Rajhin is not an Aedra, his legends state that he was born as a mortal, and you can in fact interact with him in a limited manner, his Shadows show up when you look for the missing pieces of the Mural around Northern Elsweyr, for example. And Talos does not exist yet during ESO, as Tiber Septim has not been born.

    Sithis and Padomay are not Aedra either, the former being the personification of Chaos and the Void, and the latter being one of the two primordial beings responsible for the birth of the Aedra and Daedra in some mythologies (with them also possibly being simply two names for the same being=.
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    In a way, the aedra are doing some constant good to us - allowing us to 'freely' exist on Nirn.

    Now we'll be straying in some religious, moral and metaphysical areas - forcing a being to exist but not caring for them afterward, allowing a life of suffering and misery for them, is it really a good thing ? That's a question debatted since, well, a very long time, with some radical stances here and there.

    Also, there is a constant protection, or tentative protection, from Akatosh, against daedras. But given this protection was first ( I think ) handled by ayleids ( and we all know ayleids and their moral ), then removed from them and given to alessian humans with the Amulet of kings ( all hail Tiber Septim the conqueror, a very good man indeed who nuke the hell out of those who just want to be free - freedom, what are they thinking ? ), and then somehow made immaterial thanks to the sacrifice of the one character I was asked to find in Oblivion ( but getting into ayleids ruins was just so much more interesting ), well, you could ask yourself if Akatosh is really, well... intelligent ? Good himself ? Awake ?

    Anyway, we ( we the inhabitants of Tamriel ) are the minions of the aedras, and we can be very powerful, but we are also free willed and we can do really dumb things ( like worshiping daedras and trying to give Nirn to them ). It's both a blessing and a curse ( compared to the minions of daedric princes, who don't seem to enjoy much free will - much of them at least ).

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    i thought creating nirn only took part of their power and thats it...

    also not all Aedra - though i don''t know if Rhajin and Talos are considered as Aedra are in full power no ?

    or Sithis and Padame ?

    As I understand it, Nirn is continuously sucking their power away. There are more types of gods than Daedra and Aedra. Aedra does not simply mean “good gods”, it’s specifically the gods that sacrificed themselves to create Nirn. Please note that I’m not an expert on TES cosmology but below are my understanding on the gods off the top of my head. Others may correct me or you can look on UESP.

    The Godhead - the largest, most powerful god. It is said that all of the elder scrolls lore happens in The Godhead’s dream. People argue over The Godhead exists, if its an in-universe creature, or even if its a reference to ourselves as TES cannot live on without us.

    Anu & Padomay - the primordial beings of creation and destruction, light and void, their intersection is the Grey Maybe, where Mundus and all the planets and realms exist.

    The et’ada - The gods. This encompasses Anuiel & Sithis, Auri-El & Lorkhan, Daedric Princes & Aedra, Magnus & Magna-Ge, Daedric Lords, The Earthbones, and the Elnofey.

    Anuiel & Sithis - to know themselves, Anu and Padomay created offspring. Still primordial, but generally seen as more personified.

    Auri-El & Lorkhan - the next step down from Anuiel and Sithis, they had more present form. These gods are not pure Anu nor Padomay. Auri-El (Akatosh) is both Anuic and Padomaic and while Lorkhan is Padomaic, he is the cause of the creation of Nirn. These two are where Aedra start and primordial beings end. Akatosh/Auri-El is an Aedra. Lorkhan is generally not referred to but categorically would be an Aedra as he is an ancestor.

    Aedra - any other major et’ada that took part in Nirn’s creation, though they are generally Anuic. They are also considered the Divines. Talos is categorically not an Aedra but he is a Divine (the gods that Cyrodiil would consider to be good). Also note that different cultures have different names and understandings of the various gods. The Aedra exist as planets around Nirn. I believe if you go to Fargrave and look up you can see them, though I’m not sure why they’re visible from Fargrave.

    Daedric Princes & Magnus - Magnus is akin to an Aedra in power and helped create the plans for Nirn (theres a theory that the Elder Scrolls are actually his artifacts), but instead of giving his power, he ran away from Nirn. The hole he ripped through the Mundus is the sun and the source of magic inflow to Nirn.
    Daedric princes come from various sources but none helped create Nirn. They are generally Padomaic, but a lot also have weird origins. Like Meridia and Ithelia are Magna-Ge who converted into Daedric Princes. Malacath’s origin mythology is that he was Trinimac (in some cultures worshipped as an Aedra) who was eaten by Boethiah and came out as a Daedric Prince. Daedric Princes have locations just like Aedra but instead of planets, they’re considered to be realms. Daedric Princes are bound by their spheres of influence and act alongside their inherent nature.

    Magna-Ge, Demiprinces, and Demigods - Magna-Ge are the offspring of Magnus. They also exited Mundus and their exit holes are the stars. There are a few Magna-Ge that are more important than the rest, one of which was Merid-Nunda (who became Meridia).
    Demiprinces are created by a Daedric Prince, either by themselves (asexual reproduction) or with a mortal. Fa-Nuit-Hen is a Demiprince (Boethiah as a sole parent) and it’s strongly suggested that The Golden Knight is one as well (Meridia as mother, mortal father).
    Demigods are created by the Aedra. A notable one is Morihaus, the Bull-Man of Kyne. Pelinal Whitestrake may be considered a demigod but he is also a cyborg (not really alive, more just a structure built by the Aedra).

    Daedra Lords - I don’t know a lot about them but they’re like minor Daedric Princes. Like Hollowjack.

    Daedra - While different Princes “own” different Daedra species, they did not really create them. Atronachs are also Daedra and they have their own realms.

    The Earthbones & The Elnofey - Minor gods that for the most part no longer exist. The Earthbones became the land of Nirn and The Elnofey became Nirn’s people.

    Mannimarco - He, like Talos, ascended and became a planet(ish… Mannimarco became a moon), but he’s not an Aedra he’s just a mortal-turned-god.

    The Towers - Not gods but very powerful. They are inanimate objects that hold up the sky, in a sense. The Graht-Oak in Elden Root is one such Tower. Walk-Brass, also known as Numidium, is a Tower that Talos and Mannimarco both used in their ascension.

    Dragons - Like I said earlier in the thread, they’re the offspring of Akatosh.

    The False Gods / Tribunal - These three used Tools created by the Dwemer on Lorkhan’s heart (Auri-El shot Lorkhan’s heart across Nirn, it landed and created Red Mountain (the volcano in the center of vvardenfell)). Dagoth Ur was also affected by this Heart.

    CHIM - Legend has it Molag Bal taught Vivec how to CHIM. CHIMming is the process in which you realize the world you live in is dreamed by the Godhead but you convince yourself that you’re real anyways. This allows you to manipulate The Dream, as long as you do so subtly, or else the Godhead will wake up and reality ends.
    Edited by Soarora on 16 June 2025 10:36
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  • Lucasalex92
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    Soarora wrote: »
    i thought creating nirn only took part of their power and thats it...

    also not all Aedra - though i don''t know if Rhajin and Talos are considered as Aedra are in full power no ?

    or Sithis and Padame ?

    As I understand it, Nirn is continuously sucking their power away. There are more types of gods than Daedra and Aedra. Aedra does not simply mean “good gods”, it’s specifically the gods that sacrificed themselves to create Nirn. Please note that I’m not an expert on TES cosmology but below are my understanding on the gods off the top of my head. Others may correct me or you can look on UESP.

    The Godhead - the largest, most powerful god. It is said that all of the elder scrolls lore happens in The Godhead’s dream. People argue over The Godhead exists, if its an in-universe creature, or even if its a reference to ourselves as TES cannot live on without us.

    Anu & Padomay - the primordial beings of creation and destruction, light and void, their intersection is the Grey Maybe, where Mundus and all the planets and realms exist.

    The et’ada - The gods. This encompasses Anuiel & Sithis, Auri-El & Lorkhan, Daedric Princes & Aedra, Magnus & Magna-Ge, Daedric Lords, The Earthbones, and the Elnofey.

    Anuiel & Sithis - to know themselves, Anu and Padomay created offspring. Still primordial, but generally seen as more personified.

    Auri-El & Lorkhan - the next step down from Anuiel and Sithis, they had more present form. These gods are not pure Anu nor Padomay. Auri-El (Akatosh) is both Anuic and Padomaic and while Lorkhan is Padomaic, he is the cause of the creation of Nirn. These two are where Aedra start and primordial beings end. Akatosh/Auri-El is an Aedra. Lorkhan is generally not referred to but categorically would be an Aedra as he is an ancestor.

    Aedra - any other major et’ada that took part in Nirn’s creation, though they are generally Anuic. They are also considered the Divines. Talos is categorically not an Aedra but he is a Divine (the gods that Cyrodiil would consider to be good). Also note that different cultures have different names and understandings of the various gods. The Aedra exist as planets around Nirn. I believe if you go to Fargrave and look up you can see them, though I’m not sure why they’re visible from Fargrave.

    Daedric Princes & Magnus - Magnus is akin to an Aedra in power and helped create the plans for Nirn (theres a theory that the Elder Scrolls are actually his artifacts), but instead of giving his power, he ran away from Nirn. The hole he ripped through the Mundus is the sun and the source of magic inflow to Nirn.
    Daedric princes come from various sources but none helped create Nirn. They are generally Padomaic, but a lot also have weird origins. Like Meridia and Ithelia are Magna-Ge who converted into Daedric Princes. Malacath’s origin mythology is that he was Trinimac (in some cultures worshipped as an Aedra) who was eaten by Boethiah and came out as a Daedric Prince. Daedric Princes have locations just like Aedra but instead of planets, they’re considered to be realms. Daedric Princes are bound by their spheres of influence and act alongside their inherent nature.

    Magna-Ge, Demiprinces, and Demigods - Magna-Ge are the offspring of Magnus. They also exited Mundus and their exit holes are the stars. There are a few Magna-Ge that are more important than the rest, one of which was Merid-Nunda (who became Meridia).
    Demiprinces are created by a Daedric Prince, either by themselves (asexual reproduction) or with a mortal. Fa-Nuit-Hen is a Demiprince (Boethiah as a sole parent) and it’s strongly suggested that The Golden Knight is one as well (Meridia as mother, mortal father).
    Demigods are created by the Aedra. A notable one is Morihaus, the Bull-Man of Kyne. Pelinal Whitestrake may be considered a demigod but he is also a cyborg (not really alive, more just a structure built by the Aedra).

    Daedra Lords - I don’t know a lot about them but they’re like minor Daedric Princes. Like Hollowjack.

    Daedra - While different Princes “own” different Daedra species, they did not really create them. Atronachs are also Daedra and they have their own realms.

    The Earthbones & The Elnofey - Minor gods that for the most part no longer exist. The Earthbones became the land of Nirn and The Elnofey became Nirn’s people.

    Mannimarco - He, like Talos, ascended and became a planet(ish… Mannimarco became a moon), but he’s not an Aedra he’s just a mortal-turned-god.

    The Towers - Not gods but very powerful. They are inanimate objects that hold up the sky, in a sense. The Graht-Oak in Elden Root is one such Tower. Walk-Brass, also known as Numidium, is a Tower that Talos and Mannimarco both used in their ascension.

    Dragons - Like I said earlier in the thread, they’re the offspring of Akatosh.

    The False Gods / Tribunal - These three used Tools created by the Dwemer on Lorkhan’s heart (Auri-El shot Lorkhan’s heart across Nirn, it landed and created Red Mountain (the volcano in the center of vvardenfell)). Dagoth Ur was also affected by this Heart.

    CHIM - Legend has it Molag Bal taught Vivec how to CHIM. CHIMming is the process in which you realize the world you live in is dreamed by the Godhead but you convince yourself that you’re real anyways. This allows you to manipulate The Dream, as long as you do so subtly, or else the Godhead will wake up and reality ends.

    so that Mean Y'free is The Earthbones & The Elnofey ?

    How about the Creatures in Scholarium like Indric etc ? are they gods too ?
    and Lynaryth ?

    so i wonder what powers are of Talos then ?

    and how about Hist ? is it a god ? since it allow all argonians to see oblivion crisi ahead and where gates open ?
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    Soarora wrote: »
    i thought creating nirn only took part of their power and thats it...

    also not all Aedra - though i don''t know if Rhajin and Talos are considered as Aedra are in full power no ?

    or Sithis and Padame ?

    As I understand it, Nirn is continuously sucking their power away. There are more types of gods than Daedra and Aedra. Aedra does not simply mean “good gods”, it’s specifically the gods that sacrificed themselves to create Nirn. Please note that I’m not an expert on TES cosmology but below are my understanding on the gods off the top of my head. Others may correct me or you can look on UESP.

    The Godhead - the largest, most powerful god. It is said that all of the elder scrolls lore happens in The Godhead’s dream. People argue over The Godhead exists, if its an in-universe creature, or even if its a reference to ourselves as TES cannot live on without us.

    Anu & Padomay - the primordial beings of creation and destruction, light and void, their intersection is the Grey Maybe, where Mundus and all the planets and realms exist.

    The et’ada - The gods. This encompasses Anuiel & Sithis, Auri-El & Lorkhan, Daedric Princes & Aedra, Magnus & Magna-Ge, Daedric Lords, The Earthbones, and the Elnofey.

    Anuiel & Sithis - to know themselves, Anu and Padomay created offspring. Still primordial, but generally seen as more personified.

    Auri-El & Lorkhan - the next step down from Anuiel and Sithis, they had more present form. These gods are not pure Anu nor Padomay. Auri-El (Akatosh) is both Anuic and Padomaic and while Lorkhan is Padomaic, he is the cause of the creation of Nirn. These two are where Aedra start and primordial beings end. Akatosh/Auri-El is an Aedra. Lorkhan is generally not referred to but categorically would be an Aedra as he is an ancestor.

    Aedra - any other major et’ada that took part in Nirn’s creation, though they are generally Anuic. They are also considered the Divines. Talos is categorically not an Aedra but he is a Divine (the gods that Cyrodiil would consider to be good). Also note that different cultures have different names and understandings of the various gods. The Aedra exist as planets around Nirn. I believe if you go to Fargrave and look up you can see them, though I’m not sure why they’re visible from Fargrave.

    Daedric Princes & Magnus - Magnus is akin to an Aedra in power and helped create the plans for Nirn (theres a theory that the Elder Scrolls are actually his artifacts), but instead of giving his power, he ran away from Nirn. The hole he ripped through the Mundus is the sun and the source of magic inflow to Nirn.
    Daedric princes come from various sources but none helped create Nirn. They are generally Padomaic, but a lot also have weird origins. Like Meridia and Ithelia are Magna-Ge who converted into Daedric Princes. Malacath’s origin mythology is that he was Trinimac (in some cultures worshipped as an Aedra) who was eaten by Boethiah and came out as a Daedric Prince. Daedric Princes have locations just like Aedra but instead of planets, they’re considered to be realms. Daedric Princes are bound by their spheres of influence and act alongside their inherent nature.

    Magna-Ge, Demiprinces, and Demigods - Magna-Ge are the offspring of Magnus. They also exited Mundus and their exit holes are the stars. There are a few Magna-Ge that are more important than the rest, one of which was Merid-Nunda (who became Meridia).
    Demiprinces are created by a Daedric Prince, either by themselves (asexual reproduction) or with a mortal. Fa-Nuit-Hen is a Demiprince (Boethiah as a sole parent) and it’s strongly suggested that The Golden Knight is one as well (Meridia as mother, mortal father).
    Demigods are created by the Aedra. A notable one is Morihaus, the Bull-Man of Kyne. Pelinal Whitestrake may be considered a demigod but he is also a cyborg (not really alive, more just a structure built by the Aedra).

    Daedra Lords - I don’t know a lot about them but they’re like minor Daedric Princes. Like Hollowjack.

    Daedra - While different Princes “own” different Daedra species, they did not really create them. Atronachs are also Daedra and they have their own realms.

    The Earthbones & The Elnofey - Minor gods that for the most part no longer exist. The Earthbones became the land of Nirn and The Elnofey became Nirn’s people.

    Mannimarco - He, like Talos, ascended and became a planet(ish… Mannimarco became a moon), but he’s not an Aedra he’s just a mortal-turned-god.

    The Towers - Not gods but very powerful. They are inanimate objects that hold up the sky, in a sense. The Graht-Oak in Elden Root is one such Tower. Walk-Brass, also known as Numidium, is a Tower that Talos and Mannimarco both used in their ascension.

    Dragons - Like I said earlier in the thread, they’re the offspring of Akatosh.

    The False Gods / Tribunal - These three used Tools created by the Dwemer on Lorkhan’s heart (Auri-El shot Lorkhan’s heart across Nirn, it landed and created Red Mountain (the volcano in the center of vvardenfell)). Dagoth Ur was also affected by this Heart.

    CHIM - Legend has it Molag Bal taught Vivec how to CHIM. CHIMming is the process in which you realize the world you live in is dreamed by the Godhead but you convince yourself that you’re real anyways. This allows you to manipulate The Dream, as long as you do so subtly, or else the Godhead will wake up and reality ends.

    so that Mean Y'free is The Earthbones & The Elnofey ?

    How about the Creatures in Scholarium like Indric etc ? are they gods too ?
    and Lynaryth ?

    so i wonder what powers are of Talos then ?

    and how about Hist ? is it a god ? since it allow all argonians to see oblivion crisi ahead and where gates open ?

    Y’ffre is an Earthbone according to his UESP article, yes.

    I don’t know whats up with the Scholarium creatueres. They’re not gods, I think they're more just conscious magic?

    Lyranth is a Dremora, which is a species of Daedra. She and the other Daedra (dremora, scamps, xivkyn, golden saints, dark seducers, daedroths, atronachs, ogrims, etc.) are not really gods as much as they’re just another race.

    I don’t really know anything about Talos.

    The Hist is worshipped like a god by Argonians so you could say they are a god I guess. They’re sentient trees that have a hive mind. Their sap lets them shape lizards into various forms and in times of need mind control argonians raised on the Hist-Sap.
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    Talos is the apotheosis of Tiber Septim, and possibly also the Underking/Ysmir Wulfharth and/or Zurin Arctus (but maybe they're all the same). His apotheosis was delayed about 350 years after his death but when it happened it was retroactive because of the Warp in the West.

    He is mostly associated with storms and stormclouds and may also be, or be an incarnation of, Lorkhan.


    The Hist and the Hist trees are subtly different. The trees are a loose hive mind* of sentient trees** which are most strongly connected to and possibly create the other aspect of the Hist which is a pseudo-sentient field of consciousness not entirely unlike the Force from Star Wars and is where Argonian souls go in order to pass through their cycle of reincarnation. The latter extends throughout Tamriel, but is strongest around the trees.

    Argonians don't really worship the Hist in the sense of having any kind of structured religious belief about them***, just the facts of what they are and what they do make them important enough to have the tree minders and singers to interpret and care for them. It can affect them very strongly, changing their behaviour on the spot and even physically****.


    *They have individuality like the one that bargained with Molag Bal and got taken into Coldharbour, or the ones in Lilmoth that always go rogue, so they're not a single-entity hive mind like the Borg, they're a linked-individuals collective.

    ** There are other sentient trees that aren't Hist like Brackenleaf in Valenwood.

    *** The only religious belief among Argonians is worship of Sithis, in the post-Duskfall version as a Shiva style destroyer-and-creator, they don't really bother with the Divines.

    **** As in the Oblivion crisis where the Hist respecced all the Argonians in Black Marsh for combat and they counter-invaded the Deadlands, or after the war with the second Imperium where every single Argonian simply stopped fighting and went back to waht they were doing before, or the Duskfall itself.
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