Banner bearer should be removed/reworked/nerfed from the game.

francesinhalover · June 6

I'm sorry the skill is extremely overpowered, makes arcanist fatecarver even stronger due to infinite crux regen, completly Destroys the fps of lower end pcs, increases power creep in the game that isn't needed anymore and has barely any downsides.

helps Weaker/casual players? No they can't sustain the skill. So again this is just adding a lightsaber to a sword fight.

So what we do here? nerf arcanist? This skill needs to go first. Please rework this skill, even if it's just to remove the infinite crux generation.

randconfig · June 6

francesinhalover wrote: »

I'm sorry the skill is extremely overpowered, makes arcanist fatecarver even stronger due to infinite crux regen, completly Destroys the fps of lower end pcs, increases power creep in the game that isn't needed anymore and has barely any downsides.

helps Weaker/casual players? No they can't sustain the skill. So again this is just adding a lightsaber to a sword fight.

So what we do here? nerf arcanist? This skill needs to go first. Please rework this skill, even if it's just to remove the infinite crux generation.

Sounds like your issues with the ability are:
1) Arcanist beam is overpowered/needs nerfed, I agree
2) Bannerbearer visual effects are annoying and too much, I also agree

DenverRalphy · June 6

If nothing else. The visual effects of banner bearer need to just disappear altogether. At the very least, turn it into a flat ring that only paints the ground. It's so annoying how many players run with this skill, even when it's not needed. And the visual will often block out your entire screen if the person wearing it is standing behind you.

randconfig · June 6

DenverRalphy wrote: »

If nothing else. The visual effects of banner bearer need to just disappear altogether. At the very least, turn it into a flat ring that only paints the ground. It's so annoying how many players run with this skill, even when it's not needed. And the visual will often block out your entire screen if the person wearing it is standing behind you.

I'd rather there be a very thin, solid color circle, with no flame/particle effects, around the character, just to indicate the radius, and the flag be made smaller, transparent, and the same color as the circle, instead of an oriental theme that doesn't fit any of my outfits.

moderatelyfatman · June 6

ZOS, please give us the option of turning off our flashier skills. We can still track them from the timers.

Desiato · June 6

DenverRalphy wrote: »

If nothing else. The visual effects of banner bearer need to just disappear altogether. At the very least, turn it into a flat ring that only paints the ground. It's so annoying how many players run with this skill, even when it's not needed. And the visual will often block out your entire screen if the person wearing it is standing behind you.

This is my problem with the ability.

I feel the nerfs to beam and banner were sufficient and I like that there's a bit of a skill check for sustain now.

francesinhalover · June 6

randconfig wrote: »

francesinhalover wrote: »

I'm sorry the skill is extremely overpowered, makes arcanist fatecarver even stronger due to infinite crux regen, completly Destroys the fps of lower end pcs, increases power creep in the game that isn't needed anymore and has barely any downsides.

helps Weaker/casual players? No they can't sustain the skill. So again this is just adding a lightsaber to a sword fight.

So what we do here? nerf arcanist? This skill needs to go first. Please rework this skill, even if it's just to remove the infinite crux generation.

Sounds like your issues with the ability are:
1) Arcanist beam is overpowered/needs nerfed, I agree
2) Bannerbearer visual effects are annoying and too much, I also agree

No, i litteraly Said my issues on the post and...ohhhh i get what you are trying to do...nvm

SkaiFaith · June 6

I bet there are many players loving it since, as people say, there are many around having it perma-on.
Personally I love it too, both in visuals and functionality.

The only Issue I find (maybe? I'm on console so no U46 yet) is that now it will be harder to sustain and keep up; it was better the percentage of reduced recovery instead of this flat resources cost, probably.

StihlReign · June 6

The visual concept for Banner is terrible. A giant ring bouncing up and down, hanging off into space, going through objects, blocking vision, it looks bad when a player jumps.
(Turn it off sometime, Give us all a visual break since the devs ability to dial these things back will probably take a few years.)

I'm so embarrassed for the pvpers...lol YOO!! YOU LEFT YOUR RING ON!

DenverRalphy · June 6

Here's another suggestion. Since it's intended to be a PVP skill, attach a battle spirit requirement to it. Take that abomination of a skill out of PVE altogether.

ellmarie · July 5

Yeah, I only play PvE and I was messing around a subclass build using it, and I can't stand the graphics. It actually makes me dizzy. I'll have to used something else in my skills.

Hapexamendios · July 6

I only agree with toning down the visual effects. That's the only thing that should be changed.

Zodiarkslayer · July 6

Well, in my opinion passive power is the biggest problem in the game.
Banner Bearer exemplifies this problem very well. A skill that does everything on its own, has litterally no player skill requirements and induces a ton of power (on most builds), with only marginal downsides.

Alas! This is the direction the game has taken over the last two years. More power for less agency.