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Use of DLSS4 with dlss swapper
Demalb16_ESO
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I'm trying to put the dlss 4 dll but i read somewhere that you could be kicked from the server for cheating if u change the dll, is that true?
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ZOS_KevinCommunity ManagerWe saw your previous post on this. We are checking in with the team to see if there have been reports of server kicks due to this. Will have more info on Monday.Community Manager for ZeniMax Online Studio and Elder Scrolls OnlineDev Tracker | Service Alerts | ESO Twitter1 -
YandereGirlfriend✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭We saw your previous post on this. We are checking in with the team to see if there have been reports of server kicks due to this. Will have more info on Monday.
Is there any chance of updating the DLSS and FSR implementations in the game for those that do not want to use mods?
Both technologies have come a LONG way from the versions that we have in-game, FSR in particular with FSR 4.0.3 -
virtus753✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭YandereGirlfriend wrote: »We saw your previous post on this. We are checking in with the team to see if there have been reports of server kicks due to this. Will have more info on Monday.
Is there any chance of updating the DLSS and FSR implementations in the game for those that do not want to use mods?
Both technologies have come a LONG way from the versions that we have in-game, FSR in particular with FSR 4.0.
FSR 2.0+ is not officially supported with DirectX 11, last I knew. Has that changed? (Not AFMF, which is a driver-level thing available for DirectX 11/12 games and is not the same as FSR.)
As for OP’s issue, I’m wondering how much overlap there is between this issue and Daybreak, which became incompatible with ESO after Gold Road and was then declared a violation of ToS for modifying game files. I don’t recall whether we heard if anything that changes .dll files was considered to be a modification of the game files (and thus against ToS) or if there was something more specific.1 -
bruta✭✭✭✭Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself1 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software3 -
bruta✭✭✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software
highly doubt that, eso is even listed now in their override table
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/1 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software
highly doubt that, eso is even listed now in their override table
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/
I've known ppl who have been banned before if it, and even like OP said and the dev even spoke about it as well thats why I said it might be a glitch still and waiting to hear back before using it because of that reason0 -
RagnarSw✭✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software
highly doubt that, eso is even listed now in their override table
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/
I've known ppl who have been banned before if it, and even like OP said and the dev even spoke about it as well thats why I said it might be a glitch still and waiting to hear back before using it because of that reason
I don't see how people would get banned for this. This is happening on the driver level. ZoS wouldn't even be aware. I think if someone told you they got banned for this they're not being completely honest with you.2 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software
highly doubt that, eso is even listed now in their override table
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/
I've known ppl who have been banned before if it, and even like OP said and the dev even spoke about it as well thats why I said it might be a glitch still and waiting to hear back before using it because of that reason
I don't see how people would get banned for this. This is happening on the driver level. ZoS wouldn't even be aware. I think if someone told you they got banned for this they're not being completely honest with you.
Read what OP said and right under it read what ZOS said as well, they are aware if this snd the wait the AI works within the system it might flag it as cheat engine1 -
RagnarSw✭✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software
highly doubt that, eso is even listed now in their override table
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/
I've known ppl who have been banned before if it, and even like OP said and the dev even spoke about it as well thats why I said it might be a glitch still and waiting to hear back before using it because of that reason
I don't see how people would get banned for this. This is happening on the driver level. ZoS wouldn't even be aware. I think if someone told you they got banned for this they're not being completely honest with you.
Read what OP said and right under it read what ZOS said as well, they are aware if this snd the wait the AI works within the system it might flag it as cheat engine
The OP is talking about something completely different. DLSS DLL is a third party program that swaps out game files. Nvidia App performs at the driver level.1 -
GloatingSwine✭✭✭✭Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software
highly doubt that, eso is even listed now in their override table
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/
I've known ppl who have been banned before if it, and even like OP said and the dev even spoke about it as well thats why I said it might be a glitch still and waiting to hear back before using it because of that reason
I don't see how people would get banned for this. This is happening on the driver level. ZoS wouldn't even be aware. I think if someone told you they got banned for this they're not being completely honest with you.
Read what OP said and right under it read what ZOS said as well, they are aware if this snd the wait the AI works within the system it might flag it as cheat engine
The OP is talking about something completely different. DLSS DLL is a third party program that swaps out game files. Nvidia App performs at the driver level.
DLSS Swapper changes the .dll file in the game folder, making changes in the nvidia app redirects it to using a different one somewhere in the driver files.
So I can see how the game might get more mad about the latter than the former because it's being redirected out of its own folder.0 -
Unfadingsilence✭✭✭✭✭
✭GloatingSwine wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software
highly doubt that, eso is even listed now in their override table
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/
I've known ppl who have been banned before if it, and even like OP said and the dev even spoke about it as well thats why I said it might be a glitch still and waiting to hear back before using it because of that reason
I don't see how people would get banned for this. This is happening on the driver level. ZoS wouldn't even be aware. I think if someone told you they got banned for this they're not being completely honest with you.
Read what OP said and right under it read what ZOS said as well, they are aware if this snd the wait the AI works within the system it might flag it as cheat engine
The OP is talking about something completely different. DLSS DLL is a third party program that swaps out game files. Nvidia App performs at the driver level.
DLSS Swapper changes the .dll file in the game folder, making changes in the nvidia app redirects it to using a different one somewhere in the driver files.
So I can see how the game might get more mad about the latter than the former because it's being redirected out of its own folder.
Yes ^^^0 -
licenturion✭✭✭✭✭
✭I wouldn’t use DLSS swapper. It swaps out files which can lead to a ban for tampering with game files.
Even de DLSS swapper app says when you boot it up not to use this with strictly multiplayer games to be sure.Edited by licenturion on 17 May 2025 09:500 -
RagnarSw✭✭✭GloatingSwine wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Unfadingsilence wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
Yes BUT there are people getting booted and banned for it, because the system acts funny when switching to it. So might work find and then you go to log in and says you have been banned for cheating or messing with the software
highly doubt that, eso is even listed now in their override table
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-rtx-games-engines-apps/
I've known ppl who have been banned before if it, and even like OP said and the dev even spoke about it as well thats why I said it might be a glitch still and waiting to hear back before using it because of that reason
I don't see how people would get banned for this. This is happening on the driver level. ZoS wouldn't even be aware. I think if someone told you they got banned for this they're not being completely honest with you.
Read what OP said and right under it read what ZOS said as well, they are aware if this snd the wait the AI works within the system it might flag it as cheat engine
The OP is talking about something completely different. DLSS DLL is a third party program that swaps out game files. Nvidia App performs at the driver level.
DLSS Swapper changes the .dll file in the game folder, making changes in the nvidia app redirects it to using a different one somewhere in the driver files.
So I can see how the game might get more mad about the latter than the former because it's being redirected out of its own folder.
Swapper is changing that in the game files. Most anti cheats work by scanning game files to see if there were any alterations. The alterations are what flags the anti cheat. At the driver level it is happening before the game is even accessed. It is equivalent to changing settings like frame rate limit.0 -
ApoAlaia✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭My AV regularly complains about the ESO client 'taking liberties' - so much so that for my peace of mind I have to run it sandboxed - therefore I think it likely that it might take umbrage to replacing any game files, even if they are third party libraries.1 -
Demalb16_ESO✭✭✭Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
DLAA and DLSS are 2 different things. One if for Anti Aliasing, one is for Super Sampling.
The only way to activate DLSS is using tha app or swapping the dll and it seems that they added more support for the game in the app because some previously grayed out things are available now. I'll test if the DLSS override via Nvidia app will work in the next days.
To activate it u snould go under driver settings > preset model and select "last".Edited by Demalb16_ESO on 18 May 2025 03:220 -
Demalb16_ESO✭✭✭Results of the test in FPS:
DLSS2 DLSS4
Quality 110 100
Balanced 125 110
Performance 147 118
The image quality is better but the gain in FPS is nowere near the native thing probalby because it's a driver override.
Edited by Demalb16_ESO on 18 May 2025 12:450 -
RagnarSw✭✭✭Demalb16_ESO wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
DLAA and DLSS are 2 different things. One if for Anti Aliasing, one is for Super Sampling.
The only way to activate DLSS is using tha app or swapping the dll and it seems that they added more support for the game in the app because some previously grayed out things are available now. I'll test if the DLSS override via Nvidia app will work in the next days.
To activate it u snould go under driver settings > preset model and select "last".
Super Sampling is a form of Anti Aliasing. Both DLSS and DLAA are used for AA and both are technically not SS. The reason DLSS got its name because is it is trained from 16K. DLDSR is the actual SS method. The main difference between DLSS and DLAA is the resolution that is sampled. DLAA will use native and DLSS will use a percentage of native depending on the setting. Otherwise, what is going on is virtually the same.1 -
Demalb16_ESO✭✭✭Demalb16_ESO wrote: »Demalb16_ESO wrote: »
you can enable dlss 4 in eso with the nvidia app now, using DLAA myself
DLAA and DLSS are 2 different things. One if for Anti Aliasing, one is for Super Sampling.
The only way to activate DLSS is using tha app or swapping the dll and it seems that they added more support for the game in the app because some previously grayed out things are available now. I'll test if the DLSS override via Nvidia app will work in the next days.
To activate it u snould go under driver settings > preset model and select "last".
Super Sampling is a form of Anti Aliasing. Both DLSS and DLAA are used for AA and both are technically not SS. The reason DLSS got its name because is it is trained from 16K. DLDSR is the actual SS method. The main difference between DLSS and DLAA is the resolution that is sampled. DLAA will use native and DLSS will use a percentage of native depending on the setting. Otherwise, what is going on is virtually the same.
Yes, but the function is different. DLAA don't boost your frame rate, it try to enhance the image from native resolution (as you said). The purpose of DLSS instead is boosting your frame rate. 2 different computer are "virtually the same" but I wouldn't try to play eso on a commodore amiga.....0 -
GloatingSwine✭✭✭✭Demalb16_ESO wrote: »Results of the test in FPS:
DLSS2 DLSS4
Quality 110 100
Balanced 125 110
Performance 147 118
The image quality is better but the gain in FPS is nowere near the native thing probalby because it's a driver override.
The transformer model is slightly more system intensive than the cnn model. Real world performance gains from Preset K come from the fact that it gets better image quality at lower scaling factors.
Though in ESO the native implementation of DLSS is horrific grease-o-vision so the impetus to change it is more the ability to use the technology at all.0