Bravo ZOS

Prionyx · May 5

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

necro_the_crafter · May 5

Yeah, now PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU kill GLS for good, and give necros some decent sticky dot instead.

The lack of creativity is ming boggling. Why on tamriel the class must have a cost reduction for summons on passive AND on active skill thats in whole another skill line? A DoT damage increasing passive AND a DoT damage increase on active ability? Why?

Stx · May 5

Yea this was a great change.

Cooperharley · May 5

Now instead of deadly arcanists will just use tideborn lol

LunaFlora · May 5

Cooperharley wrote: »

Now instead of deadly arcanists will just use tideborn lol

Tideborn is indeed awesome, but Deadly Strike also buffs Channeled attacks so it can still be used for beams ^_^

Sordidfairytale · May 5

LunaFlora wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Now instead of deadly arcanists will just use tideborn lol

Tideborn is indeed awesome, but Deadly Strike also buffs Channeled attacks so it can still be used for beams ^_^

As far as we know. ZoS may have forgotten to update the change that Deadly only buffs DOTs now. Additionally TB is craftable, so easier to fit into a kit.

VoidCommander · May 5

Nerieneth’s Monster helm potentially relevant again?

Zyaneth_Bal · May 5

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

StarOfElyon · May 5

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

Why kill those skills for everyone else?

Stx · May 5

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

Running two hand back bar isn’t a dps loss over destro staff?

Zyaneth_Bal · May 5

Stx wrote: »

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

Running two hand back bar isn’t a dps loss over destro staff?

2h bb is stronger than destro in st for most classes btw

Stx · May 5

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Stx wrote: »

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

Running two hand back bar isn’t a dps loss over destro staff?

2h bb is stronger than destro in st for most classes btw

Well I guess getting a buff from VMA two hander is still better than a 25% buff from Grave Lord. But if Beam needs to be nerfed further I hope they do that.

Zyaneth_Bal · May 5

Stx wrote: »

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Stx wrote: »

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

Running two hand back bar isn’t a dps loss over destro staff?

2h bb is stronger than destro in st for most classes btw

Well I guess getting a buff from VMA two hander is still better than a 25% buff from Grave Lord. But if Beam needs to be nerfed further I hope they do that.

vma 2h is going to buff every 0.3s tick which will boost damage tremendously. In other words we will soon see 170k parses on live.

I hope they won’t nerf any sets because of that. Because that’s not the issue here. Most of the damage still comes from subclassing

Cooperharley · May 5

LunaFlora wrote: »

Cooperharley wrote: »

Now instead of deadly arcanists will just use tideborn lol

Tideborn is indeed awesome, but Deadly Strike also buffs Channeled attacks so it can still be used for beams ^_^

It does and it's 15%, but the 12% boost is also more beneficial for things like flail and scholarship. Both are fine, but i believe tideborn will be better

Prionyx · May 5

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

Tideborn is weaker compared to deadly on arcanist, maelstorm 2h is 12% which is not as good as 25% from necro
Of course beam still needs like 20% damage decrease but it's a step in the right direction

Urzigurumash · May 5

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

Why kill those skills for everyone else?

Yeah this breaks tons of synergy out there on any build using Radiant or Soul Assault. Flamestaff will be in a rough spot in PvP.

Zyaneth_Bal · May 5

Urzigurumash wrote: »

StarOfElyon wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

Why kill those skills for everyone else?

Yeah this breaks tons of synergy out there on any build using Radiant or Soul Assault. Flamestaff will be in a rough spot in PvP.

Flame staff is already dead for anything other than as pve bb. And soul strike has been by far the worst ultimate in the game ever since it was unjustifiably massacred. It’s not cheap and hits weaker than a great number of non-ultimate skills. Unfortunately

Zyaneth_Bal · May 5

Prionyx wrote: »

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

Tideborn is weaker compared to deadly on arcanist, maelstorm 2h is 12% which is not as good as 25% from necro
Of course beam still needs like 20% damage decrease but it's a step in the right direction

It’s not a step in the right direction. It’s sidestepping the problem

Prionyx · May 5

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

Tideborn is weaker compared to deadly on arcanist, maelstorm 2h is 12% which is not as good as 25% from necro
Of course beam still needs like 20% damage decrease but it's a step in the right direction

It’s not a step in the right direction. It’s sidestepping the problem

The goal is to nerf arcanist. Beam being changed into direct damage nerfs arcanist a bit. It's a step into the right direction, though more changes are needed

cuddles_with_wroble · May 6

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Zyaneth_Bal wrote: »

Prionyx wrote: »

Abilities that are traditionally referred to as “beams” have all been updated to now be considered Direct Damage, rather than Damage over Time. This affects the following abilities;
Fatecarver and morphs

Glad to see a great change
(Literally all of the other changes are good too, but I'm specifically glad about this one)

This has to be sarcasm, because this changes nothing for pve. Beams are now buffed by vma 2h and tideborn, not to mention their base damage remains unchanged. Arc beam is still going to come out even stronger compared to live

Tideborn is weaker compared to deadly on arcanist, maelstorm 2h is 12% which is not as good as 25% from necro
Of course beam still needs like 20% damage decrease but it's a step in the right direction

It’s not a step in the right direction. It’s sidestepping the problem

i agree, this just shows they dont understand the problem.

francesinhalover · May 6

necro_the_crafter wrote: »

Yeah, now PLEASE, I BEG OF YOU kill GLS for good, and give necros some decent sticky dot instead.

The lack of creativity is ming boggling. Why on tamriel the class must have a cost reduction for summons on passive AND on active skill thats in whole another skill line? A DoT damage increasing passive AND a DoT damage increase on active ability? Why?

i like the way it makes my character look tho

necro_the_crafter · May 6

francesinhalover wrote: »

i like the way it makes my character look tho

Im okay with the skill being a cosmetic only at this point, vfx might be its strongest aspect.