Is Spindleclutch beatable by a group of level 12 characters? I like to experience content at "appropriate" level but I have tried Spindleclutch with my friends as a group of level 12's, 13's and now 14's. We can handle most of the pulls up to the final boss even as all 12's but get killed by acid spit, stomps or red circle of death every time. Two of my friends keep wanting us to just level up two more levels and try again but I don't feel a sense of accomplishment by simply outleveling a dungeon and keep insisting we should be able to beat it at 12 if we all work together. Problem is, two of our group are new to MMO's and one in particular gets angry if we ask about his gear or skill assignments because he doesn't care enough about dungeons to want to get into that detail. SO, do I have to give up on my friends and find a group that actually WANTS to master their characters? Can Spindleclutch be beaten by a group of 12's? I have watched vidoes on the fight on youtube and it always seems to be groups of level 15's. Is the dungeon simply too hard for level 12?? Thoughts?