Weird, slightly unreal motion last couple of nvidia drivers

Northwold · May 3

Just to check my own sanity, has anyone else been having issues with the last couple of sets of Nvidia drivers introducing a really weird, unreal look to animation in the game? I'd say it's jittery but it's consistent, almost like watching an old movie slightly sped up.

I'm not quite sure what the issue is. It seems to have something to do with Vsync but turning the game's vsync off and setting vsync on in nvidia's control panel results in, well, no v sync and screen tearing, but with motion looking slightly more natural.

I'd assumed Nvidia would actually fix this by now but, well, it's been months so was wondering if anyone else has seen this and whether they managed to fix it. All the usual solutions, like total uninstall of drivers, failed, and driver rollback worked but I'm not sure I can roll back to anything now the problem has been going on so long.

Rtx 4070 ti super.

Just to add that I'm seeing this in other games too so I don't think it's an ESO issue specifically, although it manifests particularly badly in ESO.

TaSheen · May 3

Well, I was just going to update drivers today. So yeah, nope. Thanks for the heads-up Northwold!

Northwold · May 3

TaSheen wrote: »

Well, I was just going to update drivers today. So yeah, nope. Thanks for the heads-up Northwold!

I'm currently on studio drivers as couldn't be bothered to switch for 30 minutes, so it's not impossible it's been fixed on the game drivers (if there's been an update in the last two days) ! I've been having this issue for several months now on the game drivers but I don't know if it's unusual.

Sarannah · May 3

Strange, if you turn on v-sync in nvidia control panel, that should set it at your monitor's refresh rate.
To prevent screentearing, try to set your maximum frames in the nvidia control panel to your monitor's minus 1(could also try +1). So if you have a 60 hz monitor, make it 59(or 61). And just leave v-sync off in both nvidia control panel and the game itself, as your gpu should always produce the maximum amount of frames allowed anyways. Which would then be capped at one below your monitor's refresh rate(or precisely at the refresh rate if you did +1, as it won't display above your monitor's maximum hz)

Hope this helps.

Have had many issues with screentearing many years ago. Often capping the fps at minus 1 and turning v-sync off everywhere is the answer.

PS: May want to post your monitor's refresh rate and resolution. Ohw, and if it is a G-sync monitor.

Edit: Screentearing is usually a local display/gpu settings issue, this is why you have it in other games too.

Northwold · May 3

Sarannah wrote: »

Strange, if you turn on v-sync in nvidia control panel, that should set it at your monitor's refresh rate.
To prevent screentearing, try to set your maximum frames in the nvidia control panel to your monitor's minus 1(could also try +1). So if you have a 60 hz monitor, make it 59(or 61). And just leave v-sync off in both nvidia control panel and the game itself, as your gpu should always produce the maximum amount of frames allowed anyways. Which would then be capped at one below your monitor's refresh rate(or precisely at the refresh rate if you did +1, as it won't display above your monitor's maximum hz)

Hope this helps.

Have had many issues with screentearing many years ago. Often capping the fps at minus 1 and turning v-sync off everywhere is the answer.

PS: May want to post your monitor's refresh rate and resolution.

Edit: Screentearing is usually a local display/gpu settings issue, this is why you have it in other games too.

Thanks so much for taking the time. Unfortunately I've tried these steps already and I still get motion like watching old film. This seems to be something that got screwed up by Nvidia's drivers (although they did coincide with the Direct X update mess so it's not impossible that that had an impact; the game -- and others -- ran absolutely fine before the last couple of driver updates) but I'm unclear if I'm alone in this and if anything can be done to fix it. So I have to choose between RetroVision or screen tearing. As I say, originally a driver rollback fixed it. I'm at 60 hz (I've tried all of 57,58,59,60 fps, with and without vsync whether in control panel or game) res is 2560x1440. Monitor does not do gsync.

NB it's absolutely clear that I'm getting some of the more widely reported problems with Nvidia lately, like screen dropping to black for a couple of seconds at random regardless of what I'm doing in Windows. I may just keep twiddling for half an hour or so and then surrender.

Sarannah · May 3

Try the 61 fps cap and NO v-sync anywhere. (Capping your fps above your monitor's hz isn't a problem, it just won't display those frames to you)
If those things do not work, close Geforce Experience and run the game. Maybe Geforce experience is messing with your games somehow.

If that does not work, perform a clean install of the latest gpu driver(maybe try the above recommendations again afterwards if that did not fix the issue). If it truly is the driver, you may have to wait for nvidia to fix this.

Could also try to install your monitor driver, from the monitors manufacturer's website. Maybe that helps. (This isn't really needed anymore nowadays, but this may just be what might solve your issue.)

Hopefully you will get this fixed soon!

PS: Did find a couple of posts with other people having screentearing with a 4070 ti, not sure if that is also a 4070 ti super issue.

Northwold · May 3

Sarannah wrote: »

Try the 61 fps cap and NO v-sync anywhere. (Capping your fps above your monitor's hz isn't a problem, it just won't display those frames to you)
If those things do not work, close Geforce Experience and run the game. Maybe Geforce experience is messing with your games somehow.

If that does not work, perform a clean install of the latest gpu driver(maybe try the above recommendations again afterwards if that did not fix the issue). If it truly is the driver, you may have to wait for nvidia to fix this.

Could also try to install your monitor driver, from the monitors fabricator's website. Maybe that helps. (This isn't really needed anymore nowadays, but this may just be what might solve your issue.)

Hopefully you will get this fixed soon!

PS: Did find a couple of posts with other people having screentearing with a 4070 ti, not sure if that is also a 4070 ti super issue.

Will give it a go thank you! Though I do suspect this is a driver issue alas -- they have somehow messed up something to do with v sync. The problem isn't actually for me v sync itself, but what happens to motion when v sync is on. Without it what I'm seeing with screen tearing is absolutely normal in my experience, not huge rips across the screen.