Ideas to help improve less popular subclassing lines for damage dealers.

ESO_Nightingale
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Honestly, with the powercreep included by dropping lines that don't give you as much damage, it might be worthwhile to add damage increasing passives to lines that include commonly used damage skills. powercreep is going to happen regardless with damage dealers, so adding new passive damage increasing effects to things like tank lines might make them worthwhile.



here's some ideas i came up with along with some additional ideas i'd like to see included. i didn't include any nerfs, but we all know certain skill lines are overperforming right now.

Dragonknight

Draconic Power:
Iron Skin:
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Earthen Heart:
Battle Roar:
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Nightblade

Shadow:
Dark Veil
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Siphoning:
Soul Siphoner
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Sorcerer

Changes: Bound Armor and Daedric Mines have swapped positions

Dark Magic:
Exploitation:
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Storm Calling:

Mage's Fury:
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Now always applies Concussed. increased the execute range from 20% to 25% like all other non linearly scaling execute abilities

Mage's Wrath:
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In addition to its base morph's changes, Mage's Wrath now also deals increased initial hit damage while in execute range. this should make it a very effective execute opposed to previously being outclassed.

Endless Fury (NEW): Bolt Strike:
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One morph of Mage's Fury is now a ranged standardised spammable with some solid power behind it, not only does it always apply concussed, it also still has some power in execute range, though nowhere near as much as Mage's Wrath or another execute.

Lightning Splash:
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This ability and its morphs now deal standardised AOE spammable damage to targets to add some much deserved damage to this ability, however, the ability is more expensive to compensate

Lightning Flood:
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Adding to its morph effects, i felt it was appropriate to specialise each morph for different roles. Lightning Flood now gains a scaling bonus in execute range which serves it well especially when spamming it as this morph is shorter.

Liquid Lightning (NEW): Energising Lightning:
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To differ this morph from Lightning Flood i felt increasing its duration, reducing its cost and adding a heal over time to allies in the area would serve this skill well. Sorcerer abilities lack an AoE heal over time, and a heal over time skill with a synergy is typically of good value.

Critical Surge:
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Critical Surge was lacking oomph in pve, adding in status effect increasing power heavily works off the theming of the line and incentivises more use of shock and physical damage abilities. This change also makes it much easier to justify running critical surge over some other source of major sorcery and brutality.



Capacitor:
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As the only elemental themed line that did not have some inherent bonus to the status effect it applies, i felt it was fitting to give storm calling a strong and unique passive that is unlike glacial presence or combustion, As storm calling also buffs physical damage abilities, i thought it would be cool to apply sundered when concussed is applied, or vice versa, concussed when sundered is applied. this has many applications especially when keeping uptime on the unique effects that these status effects bring to the table, but wind and lightning go hand in hand.


Templar

Sun Fire:
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This ability and its morphs now benefit from Enduring Ray's increased magic damage bonus, so to keep the theming of the ability, it now also applies the burning status effect when it applies to the target, keeping the flame damage in some form for the vampire killing theme, but giving it more practicality with the rest of the line
Vampire's Bane:
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Dawn's Wrath:
Enduring Rays:
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Necromancer

Bone Tyrant:
Disdain Harm:
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I felt that this line could use an interesting twist on an increase to damage. Mitigation is a big focus of this line and i thought it appropriate to provide a damage boost based around that effect. that hopefully would make this line much more attractive to bruiser type players as well

Warden

Animal Companions:
Savage Beast:
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Its finally time to give animal companions some bleed based bonus. i thought this effect was very unique, playing off the existing hemorrhaging stack effect. you now bleed enemies harder and easier when you apply hemo from an animal companions ability.
Winter's Embrace:
Frozen Retreat:
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I combined together the effects of Frozen Retreat and Frozen Device and added a taunt effect to the skill to increase quality of life for tanks. This skill does not need 2 niche tank pull morphs and frost dps builds lack a proper delayed burst damage skill that synergises with their playstyle. This makes way for that.

Frozen Device (NEW): Frost Rune:
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As i hinted at before, i wanted to give frost damage builds a proper delayed burst damage skill. given our insane chilled proc rate, i thought it fitting that this skill could build up and detonate multiple times over its 10 second duration as that gives it some differences from something similar like power of the light otherwise.

Piercing Cold:
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This passive line needed more power outside of frost damage, critical chance will make it significantly more useful for players who may enjoy a frosty theme, but also want to use damage types other than frost in their builds.
Icy Aura:
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After testing this new effect on the pts, i found it extremely underwhelming. stacks drop off way too easily and 3 seconds of major maim feels a little too short. i increased the duration by 1 second and applied minor brittle to it too, so winters embrace tanks don't need to run ice staves to apply minor brittle, as now their cold hard body does it for free.


Let me know what you think, i really tried to create some cool stuff here and although its not balanced, nothing really is right now anyway.
Edited by ESO_Nightingale on 26 April 2025 07:38
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  • LunaFlora
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    i think this would all be pretty good.
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    This is just too much
  • Turtle_Bot
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    Honestly, with the powercreep included by dropping lines that don't give you as much damage, it might be worthwhile to add damage increasing passives to lines that include commonly used damage skills. powercreep is going to happen regardless with damage dealers, so adding new passive damage increasing effects to things like tank lines might make them worthwhile.

    here's some ideas i came up with along with some additional ideas i'd like to see included. i didn't include any nerfs, but we all know certain skill lines are overperforming right now.

    Dragonknight

    Draconic Power:
    Iron Skin:
    image.png?ex=680db3a9&is=680c6229&hm=df802e7f771224c5eff6f11073c5dba45ef50e5c75ca9a05b9d5e894e39eb19a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    Earthen Heart:
    Battle Roar:
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    Nightblade

    Shadow:
    Dark Veil
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    Siphoning:
    Soul Siphoner
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    Sorcerer

    Changes: Bound Armor and Daedric Mines have swapped positions

    Dark Magic:
    Exploitation:
    image.png?ex=680db49d&is=680c631d&hm=5551baf8704946fe9a205609a69e5e744337de2d1f780520909f57c406765486&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    Storm Calling:

    Mage's Fury:
    image.png?ex=680dc5a1&is=680c7421&hm=c82a5da5790d96eda0c03e0f14c568fd21d8748202e516e2ec249e2bb15cca5b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    Now always applies Concussed. increased the execute range from 20% to 25% like all other non linearly scaling execute abilities

    Mage's Wrath:
    image.png?ex=680dc5b4&is=680c7434&hm=d3f1db1da6bfe7d5e406e09156aaddf4d43b42d2e8e678c1dd769405572fb0bd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    In addition to its base morph's changes, Mage's Wrath now also deals increased initial hit damage while in execute range. this should make it a very effective execute opposed to previously being outclassed.

    Endless Fury (NEW): Bolt Strike:
    image.png?ex=680dc78d&is=680c760d&hm=1cd9031f4ad406dfe236bad68b199672ae90db0b2ac1638cfb150e0c4d7a3296&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    One morph of Mage's Fury is now a ranged standardised spammable with some solid power behind it, not only does it always apply concussed, it also still has some power in execute range, though nowhere near as much as Mage's Wrath or another execute.

    Lightning Splash:
    image.png?ex=680dd156&is=680c7fd6&hm=1edd7724e08a71a0463a4d7ecc58e8278f9278150492196b348337ae2863c750&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    This ability and its morphs now deal standardised AOE spammable damage to targets to add some much deserved damage to this ability, however, the ability is more expensive to compensate

    Lightning Flood:
    image.png?ex=680dd195&is=680c8015&hm=31724fe240124986f7a0d5b3e593cbc01bae9a88cc40bb5a927f889d780ed4e3&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    Adding to its morph effects, i felt it was appropriate to specialise each morph for different roles. Lightning Flood now gains a scaling bonus in execute range which serves it well especially when spamming it as this morph is shorter.

    Liquid Lightning (NEW): Energising Lightning:
    image.png?ex=680dd1d9&is=680c8059&hm=d4c6b00f28b090e682ff18c9a97b2a8c37ca100fb2694a79519b6a8709b0a72e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    To differ this morph from Lightning Flood i felt increasing its duration, reducing its cost and adding a heal over time to allies in the area would serve this skill well. Sorcerer abilities lack an AoE heal over time, and a heal over time skill with a synergy is typically of good value.

    Critical Surge:
    image.png?ex=680dc2c0&is=680c7140&hm=0c32347c0685abffe7cdbd8df8ff9f362b45fb085c3d7f41eb7cfe194a108155&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    Critical Surge was lacking oomph in pve, adding in status effect increasing power heavily works off the theming of the line and incentivises more use of shock and physical damage abilities. This change also makes it much easier to justify running critical surge over some other source of major sorcery and brutality.



    Capacitor:
    image.png?ex=680dc841&is=680c76c1&hm=ce1e77f4a465c45789335a6ced949568c931050afb1e66ddeb5cfcdc115079ee&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    As the only elemental themed line that did not have some inherent bonus to the status effect it applies, i felt it was fitting to give storm calling a strong and unique passive that is unlike glacial presence or combustion, As storm calling also buffs physical damage abilities, i thought it would be cool to apply sundered when concussed is applied, or vice versa, concussed when sundered is applied. this has many applications especially when keeping uptime on the unique effects that these status effects bring to the table, but wind and lightning go hand in hand.


    Templar

    Sun Fire:
    image.png?ex=680dcc8a&is=680c7b0a&hm=d83127e25282da08840fab2ed401c818b208b37c09db7b0d06a9a754afa9f107&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    This ability and its morphs now benefit from Enduring Ray's increased magic damage bonus, so to keep the theming of the ability, it now also applies the burning status effect when it applies to the target, keeping the flame damage in some form for the vampire killing theme, but giving it more practicality with the rest of the line
    Vampire's Bane:
    image.png?ex=680dcde4&is=680c7c64&hm=f6541f99e0fafbeff3667fefdf8159a6ca38812a5317bfba9283d4762f48bc42&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    image.png?ex=680dce3d&is=680c7cbd&hm=8c213154c4625a2f4e3a4e0feb9f39d7fde7db43c5850c77cca91224c891a1b5&=&format=webp&quality=lossless


    Dawn's Wrath:
    Enduring Rays:
    image.png?ex=680dcb9f&is=680c7a1f&hm=08ed8de1b32988dcfc02a2aef0dc533307190fb98d3662bdc382d60c451ac57c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    Necromancer

    Bone Tyrant:
    Disdain Harm:
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    I felt that this line could use an interesting twist on an increase to damage. Mitigation is a big focus of this line and i thought it appropriate to provide a damage boost based around that effect. that hopefully would make this line much more attractive to bruiser type players as well

    Warden

    Animal Companions:
    Savage Beast:
    image.png?ex=680dd4a7&is=680c8327&hm=120e0d62b545ab6944d9c84b87b2dee2aeba34816a57595934f0929c525871d9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    Its finally time to give animal companions some bleed based bonus. i thought this effect was very unique, playing off the existing hemorrhaging stack effect. you now bleed enemies harder and easier when you apply hemo from an animal companions ability.
    Winter's Embrace:
    Frozen Retreat:
    image.png?ex=680dd7c5&is=680c8645&hm=fad54ba6a34f2e862766273b592d9cb430839bef5fce654339daaf0e7549a818&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    I combined together the effects of Frozen Retreat and Frozen Device and added a taunt effect to the skill to increase quality of life for tanks. This skill does not need 2 niche tank pull morphs and frost dps builds lack a proper delayed burst damage skill that synergises with their playstyle. This makes way for that.

    Frozen Device (NEW): Frost Rune:
    image.png?ex=680dd93a&is=680c87ba&hm=93f775f9c8316fcc1df96beb244bff14351022806de29a3b106d9151488bbead&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    As i hinted at before, i wanted to give frost damage builds a proper delayed burst damage skill. given our insane chilled proc rate, i thought it fitting that this skill could build up and detonate multiple times over its 10 second duration as that gives it some differences from something similar like power of the light otherwise.

    Piercing Cold:
    image.png?ex=680dd571&is=680c83f1&hm=f19847a32b19dd81ac28434bdee39ba59ef13f47a530361cc3e6fa164381a98e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    This passive line needed more power outside of frost damage, critical chance will make it significantly more useful for players who may enjoy a frosty theme, but also want to use damage types other than frost in their builds.
    Icy Aura:
    image.png?ex=680dd615&is=680c8495&hm=007714917753def4f67f71d9537f753712e00bbb20afbc870bdd8c0b7070f598&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    After testing this new effect on the pts, i found it extremely underwhelming. stacks drop off way too easily and 3 seconds of major maim feels a little too short. i increased the duration by 1 second and applied minor brittle to it too, so winters embrace tanks don't need to run ice staves to apply minor brittle, as now their cold hard body does it for free.


    Let me know what you think, i really tried to create some cool stuff here and although its not balanced, nothing really is right now anyway.

    I like the sorcerer skill ideas here, unfortunately I just don't see ZOS doing anything at all to buff those skills that desperately need it, since so many similar ideas have been put forward for years now and the closest ZOS has come to doing anything to buff those abilities in the decade of this game was the tiny radius increase on lightning splash a couple of years ago.
  • skinnycheeks
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    love this direction
  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Turtle_Bot wrote: »
    Honestly, with the powercreep included by dropping lines that don't give you as much damage, it might be worthwhile to add damage increasing passives to lines that include commonly used damage skills. powercreep is going to happen regardless with damage dealers, so adding new passive damage increasing effects to things like tank lines might make them worthwhile.

    here's some ideas i came up with along with some additional ideas i'd like to see included. i didn't include any nerfs, but we all know certain skill lines are overperforming right now.

    Dragonknight

    Draconic Power:
    Iron Skin:
    image.png?ex=680db3a9&is=680c6229&hm=df802e7f771224c5eff6f11073c5dba45ef50e5c75ca9a05b9d5e894e39eb19a&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    Earthen Heart:
    Battle Roar:
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    Nightblade

    Shadow:
    Dark Veil
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    Siphoning:
    Soul Siphoner
    image.png?ex=680d9945&is=680c47c5&hm=cd6765e32c63b05d55f85371f8e54dba4322df75e6d6564582efae36dd2563ee&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    Sorcerer

    Changes: Bound Armor and Daedric Mines have swapped positions

    Dark Magic:
    Exploitation:
    image.png?ex=680db49d&is=680c631d&hm=5551baf8704946fe9a205609a69e5e744337de2d1f780520909f57c406765486&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

    Storm Calling:

    Mage's Fury:
    image.png?ex=680dc5a1&is=680c7421&hm=c82a5da5790d96eda0c03e0f14c568fd21d8748202e516e2ec249e2bb15cca5b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    Now always applies Concussed. increased the execute range from 20% to 25% like all other non linearly scaling execute abilities

    Mage's Wrath:
    image.png?ex=680dc5b4&is=680c7434&hm=d3f1db1da6bfe7d5e406e09156aaddf4d43b42d2e8e678c1dd769405572fb0bd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    In addition to its base morph's changes, Mage's Wrath now also deals increased initial hit damage while in execute range. this should make it a very effective execute opposed to previously being outclassed.

    Endless Fury (NEW): Bolt Strike:
    image.png?ex=680dc78d&is=680c760d&hm=1cd9031f4ad406dfe236bad68b199672ae90db0b2ac1638cfb150e0c4d7a3296&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    One morph of Mage's Fury is now a ranged standardised spammable with some solid power behind it, not only does it always apply concussed, it also still has some power in execute range, though nowhere near as much as Mage's Wrath or another execute.

    Lightning Splash:
    image.png?ex=680dd156&is=680c7fd6&hm=1edd7724e08a71a0463a4d7ecc58e8278f9278150492196b348337ae2863c750&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    This ability and its morphs now deal standardised AOE spammable damage to targets to add some much deserved damage to this ability, however, the ability is more expensive to compensate

    Lightning Flood:
    image.png?ex=680dd195&is=680c8015&hm=31724fe240124986f7a0d5b3e593cbc01bae9a88cc40bb5a927f889d780ed4e3&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    Adding to its morph effects, i felt it was appropriate to specialise each morph for different roles. Lightning Flood now gains a scaling bonus in execute range which serves it well especially when spamming it as this morph is shorter.

    Liquid Lightning (NEW): Energising Lightning:
    image.png?ex=680dd1d9&is=680c8059&hm=d4c6b00f28b090e682ff18c9a97b2a8c37ca100fb2694a79519b6a8709b0a72e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    To differ this morph from Lightning Flood i felt increasing its duration, reducing its cost and adding a heal over time to allies in the area would serve this skill well. Sorcerer abilities lack an AoE heal over time, and a heal over time skill with a synergy is typically of good value.

    Critical Surge:
    image.png?ex=680dc2c0&is=680c7140&hm=0c32347c0685abffe7cdbd8df8ff9f362b45fb085c3d7f41eb7cfe194a108155&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
    Critical Surge was lacking oomph in pve, adding in status effect increasing power heavily works off the theming of the line and incentivises more use of shock and physical damage abilities. This change also makes it much easier to justify running critical surge over some other source of major sorcery and brutality.



    Capacitor:
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    As the only elemental themed line that did not have some inherent bonus to the status effect it applies, i felt it was fitting to give storm calling a strong and unique passive that is unlike glacial presence or combustion, As storm calling also buffs physical damage abilities, i thought it would be cool to apply sundered when concussed is applied, or vice versa, concussed when sundered is applied. this has many applications especially when keeping uptime on the unique effects that these status effects bring to the table, but wind and lightning go hand in hand.


    Templar

    Sun Fire:
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    This ability and its morphs now benefit from Enduring Ray's increased magic damage bonus, so to keep the theming of the ability, it now also applies the burning status effect when it applies to the target, keeping the flame damage in some form for the vampire killing theme, but giving it more practicality with the rest of the line
    Vampire's Bane:
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    Dawn's Wrath:
    Enduring Rays:
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    Necromancer

    Bone Tyrant:
    Disdain Harm:
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    I felt that this line could use an interesting twist on an increase to damage. Mitigation is a big focus of this line and i thought it appropriate to provide a damage boost based around that effect. that hopefully would make this line much more attractive to bruiser type players as well

    Warden

    Animal Companions:
    Savage Beast:
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    Its finally time to give animal companions some bleed based bonus. i thought this effect was very unique, playing off the existing hemorrhaging stack effect. you now bleed enemies harder and easier when you apply hemo from an animal companions ability.
    Winter's Embrace:
    Frozen Retreat:
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    I combined together the effects of Frozen Retreat and Frozen Device and added a taunt effect to the skill to increase quality of life for tanks. This skill does not need 2 niche tank pull morphs and frost dps builds lack a proper delayed burst damage skill that synergises with their playstyle. This makes way for that.

    Frozen Device (NEW): Frost Rune:
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    As i hinted at before, i wanted to give frost damage builds a proper delayed burst damage skill. given our insane chilled proc rate, i thought it fitting that this skill could build up and detonate multiple times over its 10 second duration as that gives it some differences from something similar like power of the light otherwise.

    Piercing Cold:
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    This passive line needed more power outside of frost damage, critical chance will make it significantly more useful for players who may enjoy a frosty theme, but also want to use damage types other than frost in their builds.
    Icy Aura:
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    After testing this new effect on the pts, i found it extremely underwhelming. stacks drop off way too easily and 3 seconds of major maim feels a little too short. i increased the duration by 1 second and applied minor brittle to it too, so winters embrace tanks don't need to run ice staves to apply minor brittle, as now their cold hard body does it for free.


    Let me know what you think, i really tried to create some cool stuff here and although its not balanced, nothing really is right now anyway.

    I like the sorcerer skill ideas here, unfortunately I just don't see ZOS doing anything at all to buff those skills that desperately need it, since so many similar ideas have been put forward for years now and the closest ZOS has come to doing anything to buff those abilities in the decade of this game was the tiny radius increase on lightning splash a couple of years ago.

    I suppose we'll have to keep waiting :/
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    love this direction

    I was feeling very creative yesterday and although none of these might happen i still felt like creating them was worth the effort
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  • GoAvs34
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    This is awesome!
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    GoAvs34 wrote: »
    This is awesome!

    thanks, i spent quite a few hours on it
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  • emilyhyoyeon
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    [insert Bernie Sanders meme]

    I am once again asking for warden to get a unique +6% frost damage buff on Winter's Embrace and sorcerer to get a unique +6% shock damage buff on Storm Calling that parallels dragonknight's engulfing flames unique +6% fire damage buff to help ice and lightning mage playstyles respectively.

    edit: and I would recommend it on warden's winter's revenge morph of impaling shards and on sorcerer's lightning flood morph of lightning splash.

    Edited by emilyhyoyeon on 27 April 2025 20:17
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  • Sordidfairytale
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    Frozen Device (NEW): Frost Rune:
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    As i hinted at before, i wanted to give frost damage builds a proper delayed burst damage skill. given our insane chilled proc rate, i thought it fitting that this skill could build up and detonate multiple times over its 10 second duration as that gives it some differences from something similar like power of the light otherwise.

    Great ideas, all of these, however for this one, if the stacks are applied when applying the chilled status effect, correct me if I'm wrong, but you'd only ever be able to apply 3 stacks during the duration of the curse. Perhaps make this something similar to the DK Englufing Flames morph, remove an arming time, after detonation, it would damage targets in the rune, apply a frosty DoT and increase the damage they take from frost damage by up to 10% based on weapon and spell damage?
    The Vegemite Knight

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    Frozen Device (NEW): Frost Rune:
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    As i hinted at before, i wanted to give frost damage builds a proper delayed burst damage skill. given our insane chilled proc rate, i thought it fitting that this skill could build up and detonate multiple times over its 10 second duration as that gives it some differences from something similar like power of the light otherwise.

    Great ideas, all of these, however for this one, if the stacks are applied when applying the chilled status effect, correct me if I'm wrong, but you'd only ever be able to apply 3 stacks during the duration of the curse. Perhaps make this something similar to the DK Englufing Flames morph, remove an arming time, after detonation, it would damage targets in the rune, apply a frosty DoT and increase the damage they take from frost damage by up to 10% based on weapon and spell damage?

    i'm confused as to why you think you can only apply 3 stacks over the duration of the curse? when you build for it, you can apply chilled multiple times a second.
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  • Sordidfairytale
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    i'm confused as to why you think you can only apply 3 stacks over the duration of the curse? when you build for it, you can apply chilled multiple times a second.

    It's simple. I was confused. I was always under the impression that a status effect (e.g. chilled) could not be applied to an affected target until the previous status effect had expired, or at the very least they did not stack, they merely had the duration of the other effect (e.g. minor maim) from the status effect extended. Thank you for correcting me.
    The Vegemite Knight

    "if the skeleton kills you, your dps is too low." ~STEVIL

    The Elder World of WarScrollCraft Online ~joaaocaampos
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    i'm confused as to why you think you can only apply 3 stacks over the duration of the curse? when you build for it, you can apply chilled multiple times a second.

    It's simple. I was confused. I was always under the impression that a status effect (e.g. chilled) could not be applied to an affected target until the previous status effect had expired, or at the very least they did not stack, they merely had the duration of the other effect (e.g. minor maim) from the status effect extended. Thank you for correcting me.

    Yeah you can reapply it a ton, that's why the chilled status effect is so strong on winter's embrace builds.
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  • Silaf
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    Remove the need to double slot pet summons and skills.
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    Pictures not loading anymore, not sure if it's just me.

    Can you fix it? @ESO_Nightingale
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  • ESO_Nightingale
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    Morvan wrote: »
    Pictures not loading anymore, not sure if it's just me.

    Can you fix it? @ESO_Nightingale

    This happens from time to time. It usually fixes itself after a little while.
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  • Cooperharley
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    Solid changes, but ZOS is INCREDIBLY slow when it comes to meaningful changes, especially something of this magnitude, so i'd imagine they could work this in by 2028 :P
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