This was honestly hard to title so I will give a better explanation. There are certain skills on some of the vanilla classes that don't seem to work too well on that given skill line (this is based on the dps, healer, and tank skill lines introduced since warden). I kind of wanted to hear everyone's thoughts on what skills you think don't work on their current skill line, why, and what skill(s) would you replace them with to help subclassing work better with these skill lines (well hopefully anyway since this is just a random player's thoughts on them).

I am mostly a tank main so I have a lot of experience with dk and warden. On my dk though there is a skill I don't want to leave behind and that is the fiery grip skill on the ardent flame line. Overall the ardent flame line is mostly dps oriented in its style and the fiery grip gives you a pull. While this is relatively fine in pvp scenarios I usually see pvp builds opt in for gap closers where you move towards the opponent rather than pull you closer since we have other gear/skills that are more useful because of cc immunity. As such I think it may be best to move this onto the earthen heart skill line and either swap out molten weapons or petrify. Molten weapons gives us a group buff which I can see on some builds but isn't necessary on a tank since we have better options usually. It also keeps the fire theme so less renaming needs to take place. Petrify is a single target stun (immobilize/heal depending on morph) which isn't really used on tanks. Tanks tend to prefer area immobilizes and pulls so I single target stun/immobilize doesn't really work. However it is a very annoying skill to be hit by in pvp and so I think it could be moved to the ardent flame (it does do flame damage but may not thematically fit the skill line).

Would really like everyone's thoughts on this and any other skills you can think of.