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Master Writ Envelopes Cannot Be Deposited

Tatanko
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Anyone else having the same issue? I am unable to deposit the new master writ envelopes (e.g. "Unknown Clothier Writ") into my personal bank. I get the message in the corner of the screen telling me I can't do that. I would hope this isn't the intended behavior :#
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  • Sarannah
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    This is the feature I am looking forward to the most! Would love to know more about this.

    Related to these stackable master writ envelopes, I am really curious to how this works exactly.
    -How high do these envelopes stack? Hopefully atleast 1000.
    -What happens to master writs for which I do not know the motifs?
    -Can I only open the top envelope, or do I get a list with which master writ to pick from? To make sure I can complete them before taking them out.
    -Can I reseal these master writs in an envelope after taking it out of the envelope? Mostly in relation to resealing unknown motifs master writs.

    Thanks for any answers provided!
  • Tatanko
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    Sarannah wrote: »
    -How high do these envelopes stack? Hopefully atleast 1000.
    Probably at least 200, but it likely won't be possible to know in the short time we have with PTS.
    Sarannah wrote: »
    -What happens to master writs for which I do not know the motifs?
    Same as now. You get an envelope as a reward from daily writs, and at the moment you open the envelope, a master writ is randomly generated. It works the same way now, except you get the master writ directly from the daily writ reward box. Only difference now is the envelope stage in between, which is what is allowing us to stack.
    Sarannah wrote: »
    -Can I only open the top envelope, or do I get a list with which master writ to pick from? To make sure I can complete them before taking them out.
    You don't get to pick and choose, and envelopes are identical until you open them and "create" a master writ. They exist purely so we can stack them and take up less space.
    Sarannah wrote: »
    -Can I reseal these master writs in an envelope after taking it out of the envelope? Mostly in relation to resealing unknown motifs master writs.
    No. This isn't like opening an event coffer where you get to peek inside and decide what to take. You activate an envelope, it immediately turns into a random master writ of the same type (e.g. blacksmithing). Once opened, there's no going back to an envelope.

    Presumably the envelopes cannot be traded, and you would need to open them and generate a master writ in order to give or sell it to another player. As of right now the envelopes cannot be banked either, but I am hoping that is an accidental oversight.
    Edited by Tatanko on 15 April 2025 15:14
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  • Syldras
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    So the ones we can't do because we don't have the style yet will still clutter our inventory? Then the function is completely useless for me.
    @Syldras | PC | EU
    The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
    Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
    Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
    Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
    Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake
  • Sarannah
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    Tatanko wrote: »
    Sarannah wrote: »
    -How high do these envelopes stack? Hopefully atleast 1000.
    Probably at least 200, but it likely won't be possible to know in the short time we have with PTS.
    Sarannah wrote: »
    -What happens to master writs for which I do not know the motifs?
    Same as now. You get an envelope as a reward from daily writs, and at the moment you open the envelope, a master writ is randomly generated. It works the same way now, except you get the master writ directly from the daily writ reward box. Only difference now is the envelope stage in between, which is what is allowing us to stack.
    Sarannah wrote: »
    -Can I only open the top envelope, or do I get a list with which master writ to pick from? To make sure I can complete them before taking them out.
    You don't get to pick and choose, and envelopes are identical until you open them and "create" a master writ. They exist purely so we can stack them and take up less space.
    Sarannah wrote: »
    -Can I reseal these master writs in an envelope after taking it out of the envelope? Mostly in relation to resealing unknown motifs master writs.
    No. This isn't like opening an event coffer where you get to peek inside and decide what to take. You activate an envelope, it immediately turns into a random master writ of the same type (e.g. blacksmithing). Once opened, there's no going back to an envelope.

    Presumably the envelopes cannot be traded, and you would need to open them and generate a master writ in order to give or sell it to another player. As of right now the envelopes cannot be banked either, but I am hoping that is an accidental oversight.
    Thank you very much for all the answers!
    Syldras wrote: »
    So the ones we can't do because we don't have the style yet will still clutter our inventory? Then the function is completely useless for me.
    Kind of agree, but it still helps for saving them up between the double exp events. We just have to keep up with the new motifs some more, maybe ZOS can make the newest motifs somewhat easier to obtain.
    PS: I have all motifs completed on my crafter, except for the 5-6 latest ones.
  • Syldras
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    Sarannah wrote: »
    Kind of agree, but it still helps for saving them up between the double exp events. We just have to keep up with the new motifs some more, maybe ZOS can make the newest motifs somewhat easier to obtain.
    PS: I have all motifs completed on my crafter, except for the 5-6 latest ones.

    That's probably the best way to do it, but I'm not sure if most players are that diligent? I don't deliberately farm for (or buy) style pages, I just get them through normal gameplay and especially through anniversary event boxes (right now I get 2-3 new style pages for my main, who's also my main crafter, per day). And when I get a master writ I either do it immediately (or if I don't have time right now, I'd keep it in my inventory, but not for long), or if I don't know the style, I put it to the side (and then check the old ones on whether I can do them now once after every anniversary). The things cluttering my bank/boxes/inventory were always the writs I can't do because I don't know the style yet. And without being able to see the writs before unpacking them from the envelope, I'll be in the very same situation again.
    @Syldras | PC | EU
    The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
    Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
    Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
    Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
    Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake
  • Sarannah
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    Another issue I can see happening with this envelope is the target farming for writ vouchers becoming impossible, as it is no longer possible to only pick the golden master writs to do only those for writ vouchers. Maybe it would be possible to grant two types of envelopes, golden and purple, for the level of master writ. Making the total 14 envelope types instead of 7.
    Syldras wrote: »
    Sarannah wrote: »
    Kind of agree, but it still helps for saving them up between the double exp events. We just have to keep up with the new motifs some more, maybe ZOS can make the newest motifs somewhat easier to obtain.
    PS: I have all motifs completed on my crafter, except for the 5-6 latest ones.

    That's probably the best way to do it, but I'm not sure if most players are that diligent? I don't deliberately farm for (or buy) style pages, I just get them through normal gameplay and especially through anniversary event boxes (right now I get 2-3 new style pages for my main, who's also my main crafter, per day). And when I get a master writ I either do it immediately (or if I don't have time right now, I'd keep it in my inventory, but not for long), or if I don't know the style, I put it to the side (and then check the old ones on whether I can do them now once after every anniversary). The things cluttering my bank/boxes/inventory were always the writs I can't do because I don't know the style yet. And without being able to see the writs before unpacking them from the envelope, I'll be in the very same situation again.
    Luckily as I have most motives, I only have about 40-50 master writs which I am unable to complete. Out of the 800+ I normally complete during the double exp events. Maybe ZOS can come up with a solution for your issue also.
    Edited by Sarannah on 15 April 2025 18:58
  • Maxxermax
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    I don't know of any container (which is, what a Master Writ Envelope is. A container.) that can be stored in the bank or a chest.
    Trading between characters and with other players is also not possible. This makes this feature useless as well.
    Edited by Maxxermax on 17 April 2025 16:13
  • allochthons
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    Might it be the case that the envelope is shared between characters anyway?

    Like, if Char A gets a blacksmith writ, it goes into the envelope.
    Chat B gets a blacksmith writ, it goes into the envelope, and if you log back into Char A you can see the one B got in the envelope?

    Too logical, but worth checking.
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  • Maxxermax
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    Might it be the case that the envelope is shared between characters anyway?

    Like, if Char A gets a blacksmith writ, it goes into the envelope.
    Chat B gets a blacksmith writ, it goes into the envelope, and if you log back into Char A you can see the one B got in the envelope?

    Too logical, but worth checking.

    Yes it must be tested.
    Unfortunately, I don't have a second character with fully maximized crafting skills right now on the test server.
    But I doubt it. I guess it works like any other container in the game (except that it's stackable, of course). And so it stays in the respective character's bag inventory, separate from the other characters.
    Edited by Maxxermax on 17 April 2025 17:35
  • acastanza_ESO
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    Tatanko wrote: »
    Anyone else having the same issue? I am unable to deposit the new master writ envelopes (e.g. "Unknown Clothier Writ") into my personal bank. I get the message in the corner of the screen telling me I can't do that. I would hope this isn't the intended behavior :#

    Per ZOS in the addon dev Gitter, this will be fixed on Monday's PTS patch
  • Tatanko
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    Syldras wrote: »
    Like, if Char A gets a blacksmith writ, it goes into the envelope.
    Chat B gets a blacksmith writ, it goes into the envelope, and if you log back into Char A you can see the one B got in the envelope?
    The envelopes are just simple containers, and each envelope has only one master writ inside of it. The envelopes then stack, and thus we need to be able to put them in our bank in order to share them among characters without opening them first (which turns them into a master writ, and you cannot "put back" the writ into the envelope).
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  • Syldras
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    Tatanko wrote: »
    Syldras wrote: »
    Like, if Char A gets a blacksmith writ, it goes into the envelope.
    Chat B gets a blacksmith writ, it goes into the envelope, and if you log back into Char A you can see the one B got in the envelope?
    The envelopes are just simple containers, and each envelope has only one master writ inside of it. The envelopes then stack, and thus we need to be able to put them in our bank in order to share them among characters without opening them first (which turns them into a master writ, and you cannot "put back" the writ into the envelope).

    That's a reply for @allochthons (you quoted the wrong person).
    @Syldras | PC | EU
    The forceful expression of will gives true honor to the Ancestors.
    Sarayn Andrethi, Telvanni mage (Main)
    Darvasa Andrethi, his "I'm NOT a Necromancer!" sister
    Malacar Sunavarlas, Altmer Ayleid vampire
    Soris Rethandus, a Sleeper not yet awake
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