This is Multiclassing, Not Subclassing.

acastanza_ESO · April 17

Subclassing has always been understood to be the specialization of a specific theme under a main class; to use the D&D example, a "Wild magic" sorcerer, is a pure sorcerer who has some additional class features that align with a wild magic theme, it is NOT a Sorcerer with Action Surge (the class ability of Fighter). Now Subclasses can involve things that are similar to the things another class offers, but it isn't ripping their abilities directly. Proper subclassing in ESO could involve a 4th skill line "slot" for each class that would allow you to choose between skill line options that double down on your core class themes. That isn't what we got, what we got is the ability to steal skill lines from another class, to gain that other class's features exactly. That has always been understood as multiclassing.

I'm sure ZOS won't care enough to fix this, but I personally find it kind of annoying. Hopefully it isn't too late.

Zyaneth_Bal · April 17

You are right. Personally, I think getting actual subclasses would be great. Unlike multiclassing which finally killed build diversity completely after it had already suffered from hybridization.

But it’s far too late for us to hope zos will back down, because it’s zos and not some other devs, unfortunately.
Besides, subclassing would require actual resources to create new skills and such. But with multiclassing they basically made a feature out of nothing by juat reusing what they already had available. Between that and higher prices It looks like they are not planning to stick with eso for much longer and attempt to squeeze all the money they can from the player base before then.

ForumBully · April 17

I think it's a little much to think they're going to change the name

ItsNotLiving · April 17

Classic “ZoS Double Down™️” moment here, unfortunately I’m getting used to them by now.

ForumBully · April 17

It would be fun to have the "LeeLoo Dallas, Multiclass" joke for awhile though...still I think we're stuck with Subclassing

acastanza_ESO · April 17

ForumBully wrote: »

I think it's a little much to think they're going to change the name

ZOS changed the name of the Endless Archive after it was released to Infinite Archive, I don't think it's too late to correct the name here at all.

Dojohoda · April 17

Say it with me...
Mul.ti.clas.sing

ragnarok6644b14_ESO · April 17

I think we should call it "The Class Struggle" and blame the burgeoise.

Evil_Rurouni · April 17

ragnarok6644b14_ESO wrote: »

I think we should call it "The Class Struggle" and blame the burgeoise.

If we're making jokes about Communism, we'd be better off calling this farce ZoS'es "Great leap forwards".

ragnarok6644b14_ESO · April 17

Evil_Rurouni wrote: »

ragnarok6644b14_ESO wrote: »

I think we should call it "The Class Struggle" and blame the burgeoise.

If we're making jokes about Communism, we'd be better off calling this farce ZoS'es "Great leap forwards".

On the bright side, you can opt out of this one if you want to.

I for one am extremely excited about this change and can't wait to get my hands on it.

Dialectic93 · April 21

Agree. If you want it to be called subclassing, then limit it to 1 skill tree swap and keep the core class fantasy 2/3.

Red_Feather · April 21

Multiclassing sounds cooler too. It sounds like more of something instead of less.

Dojohoda · April 21

Since multi means more than one, multiclass would mean more than one class and our skill bar will be able to have skills from up to 3 classes. 3 is more than 1 so, I'm a vote for multiclass.

On the other hand, if sub indicates submarine sandwich, I'm for that.

Rohamad_Ali · April 21

We've moved on from Basic to Advanced D&D.

DerAlleinTiger · April 21

I've been thinking the same thing. Regardless of the system itself and its positives and negatives, the name is a confounding choice. I foresee many extremely confused new players when they encounter multiclassing that everyone is calling subclassing.