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THIEVERY!
Kalthea
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I love the fact that thievery is in the game, but I have some suggestions to make it a more decent experience for folks!
For starters, what I am going to call "Ambient Items" (or the items that spawn at vendor stalls and the like). I love that you can pick these up, but I would love it even more if they had a small chance of being a Green/Blue/Purple item with a random trait or upgrade, and I would like it even more if they had the possibility of being a zone-based set piece! Imagine that you're just doin' your usual looting and suddenly BAM, you get a decent piece of zone gear! It rolled blue, but a quick upgrade of that after laundering it would make it a nice bit of kit!
Secondly: Guards!
Guards are obviously a hold-over from a time long ago when the faction war was at its height. Now, they only really function to keep thieves at bay, but the issue with that is that they have FAR too much health! Wouldn't it be great if you could, you know, actually defeat them (in a reasonable amount of time?)? I recommend changing their HP down to a decent Solo Boss HP level, and give you a, let's say, 1,000 Gold bounty per guard you kill along with a possibly decent gear drop? This would make it a struggle to take on multiple guards at once, since they're still pretty beefy, but it would also give you a reason to slay them if you want to see what they drop (or you want to build up your bounty for whatever reason).
Simple changes that provide a better experience for thievery, I think!
For starters, what I am going to call "Ambient Items" (or the items that spawn at vendor stalls and the like). I love that you can pick these up, but I would love it even more if they had a small chance of being a Green/Blue/Purple item with a random trait or upgrade, and I would like it even more if they had the possibility of being a zone-based set piece! Imagine that you're just doin' your usual looting and suddenly BAM, you get a decent piece of zone gear! It rolled blue, but a quick upgrade of that after laundering it would make it a nice bit of kit!
Secondly: Guards!
Guards are obviously a hold-over from a time long ago when the faction war was at its height. Now, they only really function to keep thieves at bay, but the issue with that is that they have FAR too much health! Wouldn't it be great if you could, you know, actually defeat them (in a reasonable amount of time?)? I recommend changing their HP down to a decent Solo Boss HP level, and give you a, let's say, 1,000 Gold bounty per guard you kill along with a possibly decent gear drop? This would make it a struggle to take on multiple guards at once, since they're still pretty beefy, but it would also give you a reason to slay them if you want to see what they drop (or you want to build up your bounty for whatever reason).
Simple changes that provide a better experience for thievery, I think!
May your crops be sun-blessed, sweet soul.
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Heren✭✭✭✭Oh, a return of the 'let's kill the guards' thread ! Although it's a better one than the last I seen.
Killing guards for 'fun', sure, but really I don't see a need for it - nor a need for them not being killable, I must precise.
Sure, if you build something around killing guards, why not - but you already have world boss and stuff for the killing thing in ESO.
Also, is there really that much people that are in dire need of more sources for zone gear ?
( As for the first suggestion, sure why not, it would just be containers but without a container ).1 -
Pheefs✭✭✭✭✭I love the idea of the casually looted items having a chance to be decent stuff!
and.....
I also think unkillable guards are the only thing that keep town from being an endless murder-fest.
Game System = RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
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Kalthea✭✭✭Oh, a return of the 'let's kill the guards' thread ! Although it's a better one than the last I seen.
Killing guards for 'fun', sure, but really I don't see a need for it - nor a need for them not being killable, I must precise.
Sure, if you build something around killing guards, why not - but you already have world boss and stuff for the killing thing in ESO.
Also, is there really that much people that are in dire need of more sources for zone gear ?
( As for the first suggestion, sure why not, it would just be containers but without a container ).
To be clear, this is a suggestion that would be simple to implement and provide a bit more incentive to pick up random pieces of loot on the ground.
As for killing the guards, there's a reason I suggested they still have a good chunk of health to them akin to a solo boss in vMA or something, that way you don't have constant guard murder happening. There isn't much incentive, just opportunity to do so without having to cut through 10 million HP, lolMay your crops be sun-blessed, sweet soul.0 -
DinoZavr✭✭✭✭✭
✭Guards have infinite health. you can not kill a guard.
Once NefasQS did this demo for laughs and giggles:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N51t68pjJXE PC EU1 -
Pheefs✭✭✭✭✭
I saw a mini-version of this once at Hew's Bane!Guards have infinite health. you can not kill a guard.
Once NefasQS did this demo for laughs and giggles
around a dozen players got the guard aggro enough to insta-kill them all
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Kalthea✭✭✭Guards have infinite health. you can not kill a guard.
Once NefasQS did this demo for laughs and giggles:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N51t68pjJXE
I wasn't even AWARE of this, that's silly! Thank you for the link, but yes, I think you should be able to (eventually) kill a guard after a good bit of fighting, maybe even make the bounty system work against you some more by making guards more difficult as your bounty increases?
Either way, just looking for ways to improve on the systems we currently have!May your crops be sun-blessed, sweet soul.0 -
LunaFlora✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭hey, it doesn't matter how many hit points a guard has, as they are always Shielded.
nothing you do damages them.miaow this is my forum signature! my name is Luna ( she/her ).
🌸*throws cherry blossom on you*🌸
"Eagles advance, traveler! And may the Green watch and keep you."
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PlayStation EU is my primary server.
LunaFloraBlossom on PlayStation 5 and PC.
my main character is a Bosmer Warden named Greehnhart in-game, Greenie Florahart in full.
all characters on PS EU:- Luna Blossom, Bosmer Dragonknight.
- Dotty Greehnhart, Bosmer Sorcerer.
- Lía Greehnhart, Khajiit Nightblade.
- Lady Greehnhart, Altmer Templar. Lady is her name and title.
- Holly Blossom, Altmer Sorcerer.
- Sally Jadehart, Argonian Nightblade. Like a green salamander.
- Dorothy Pizzalover, Orc Warden. add pizzas to the game please.
- Greehnhart, Bosmer Warden.
- Lúcia Azurehart, imperial Necromancer. Azureblight, she has a Maarselok outfit.
- Bunny Rubyhart, Dunmer Nightblade.
- Wisteria Antheia, Khajiit Templar. blue hair like the wisteria.
- Cynthia Turquesa, Breton Warden.
- Rubyhart, Bosmer Nightblade.
- Hestia Rubyhart, Dunmer Dragonknight.
- Aurelia Cherryhart, Altmer Warden. Spriggan.
- Aurora Honey, Redguard Templar. Meridian cultist.
- Speaks-With-Blossom, Argonian Warden.
- Lulu Nightshade, Nord Necromancer.
- Lunetta Gleamblossom, Bosmer Arcanist. Ohmes Khajiit.
- Dianna Hyacinth, Altmer Arcanist. Maormer, water hyacinth.1 -
GloatingSwine✭✭✭✭✭AFAIK guards used to be mortal but really really tough and the absolute gigaspam of players ganging up to murder them caused everyone's framerate to go on holiday when they were just trying to do their town stuff.1 -
Kalthea✭✭✭GloatingSwine wrote: »AFAIK guards used to be mortal but really really tough and the absolute gigaspam of players ganging up to murder them caused everyone's framerate to go on holiday when they were just trying to do their town stuff.
Ahhh, that makes sense, and is more understandable. Still, I would like to see some better interactions with them, and definitely with the ambient loot.May your crops be sun-blessed, sweet soul.0