Magma change is huge detriment to Swash progs

adamsmith42 · April 14

This change should really be limited to PvP... probably 95% of Swashbuckler Supreme runs have used a DK tank running Magma Shell to clear reef guardian, this change is going to invalidate/reset the progression of a LOT of groups.

Reginald_leBlem · April 14

Huge detriment to *any* group with a DK tank that needs an emergency magma now and again.

sarahthes · April 14

adamsmith42 wrote: »

This change should really be limited to PvP... probably 95% of Swashbuckler Supreme runs have used a DK tank running Magma Shell to clear reef guardian, this change is going to invalidate/reset the progression of a LOT of groups.

The sad thing is one of the reasons for the change is likely IA.

Navaac223 · April 14

It would probably be fine if the acid reflux mech actually stopped when the tanks swap but, for some reason, the boss gets immune to this way faster than he gets taunt immunity. I swear : everytime I tank vDSR the boss does acid once, we swap and everything is smooth. The very next acid, it's impossible to swap

Thumbless_Bot · April 14

I think this change has to do with deep IA runs tbh. So, while I agree it should be pvp only, me thinks they won't do that.

ssewallb14_ESO · April 14

Permashell cheese should've been removed a long time ago.

Iriidius · April 14

Magma shell ultimate regeneration should not be disabled in PvP either as nobody uses this morph because it is purely defensive ultimate inferior to shield wall and everyone uses either corrosive for penetration or other ultimates. Where magmashell was used is in infinity archive high arcs.

Somehow PvE player think every nerf they do not understand where nerfed thing is not overpowered is because of PvP(complains) when often nerfs are arbitrary and random with stupid reasons.

sarahthes · April 14

Iriidius wrote: »

Magma shell ultimate regeneration should not be disabled in PvP either as nobody uses this morph because it is purely defensive ultimate inferior to shield wall and everyone uses either corrosive for penetration or other ultimates. Where magmashell was used is in infinity archive high arcs.

Somehow PvE player think every nerf they do not understand where nerfed thing is not overpowered is because of PvP(complains) when often nerfs are arbitrary and random with stupid reasons.

It's not PvP related we know that. It's IA cheese related.

Soarora · April 14

The mechanic should not require magma shell, it’s bothered me for a while as it limits class diversity. Instead of needing magma shell reverted, the mechanic should be looked at IMO.

sarahthes · April 14

Soarora wrote: »

The mechanic should not require magma shell, it’s bothered me for a while as it limits class diversity. Instead of needing magma shell reverted, the mechanic should be looked at IMO.

Damage is going to be so inflated I don't think it's going to be necessary there anymore.

fxeconomisteb17_ESO · April 15

So, now it's time for the DK to be shelved. Hmm, and I liked Magma.

My proposal to Zenimax.

I understand you're destroying it because Basalt made it too good.
So, why not reinstate normal Magma and nerf Basalt to bring it Drake's level.
After all, Drake's Rush didn't upset you so much.

Firstmep · April 15

fxeconomisteb17_ESO wrote: »

So, now it's time for the DK to be shelved. Hmm, and I liked Magma.

My proposal to Zenimax.

I understand you're destroying it because Basalt made it too good.
So, why not reinstate normal Magma and nerf Basalt to bring it Drake's level.
After all, Drake's Rush didn't upset you so much.

It's to stop IA cheese runs plain and simple.

robpr · April 15

Arc's bubble is new Magma I guess