How Popular Will the "Vengeance" Cyrodiil Instance be?

Renato90085 · March 24

this is the first time in 5 years that I can play cyro(only 300ping) and never stuck in combat...
i like necro skill in test

BardokRedSnow · March 24

Renato90085 wrote: »

this is the first time in 5 years that I can play cyro(only 300ping) and never stuck in combat...
i like necro skill in test

I would take cyro in all its laggy glory any day over vengeance

xylena_lazarow · March 24

The casual/noob crowd loves it so far. The sweaty/competitive crowd mostly does not. Seems like a decent model for getting more players into PvP but many will lose interest if they don't let individuals have more impact.

MincMincMinc · March 25

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

The casual/noob crowd loves it so far. The sweaty/competitive crowd mostly does not. Seems like a decent model for getting more players into PvP but many will lose interest if they don't let individuals have more impact.

I think the mid casual base is mostly crying, because they cant abuse proc sets or dlc cheese to win against other mid players.

The only reason sweats are complaining right now is because there are no 1vX skills and sustain is not possible right now. The old days had many skills that scaled vs the number of players. Think back to old wings or harness magicka or critsurge. People complained about these skills because a handful of VERY GOOD players were like gods. People were happy they got removed..... but in all actuality they made it impossible for mid to low tier players to solo. Slowly pushing 90% of the playerbase to only be able to zerg or ball group.

kojou · March 25

I played last night and I liked it. I ran my Nightblade and found it to be easy to work out what skills I needed and to time my burst combo.

I would like to see Alliance skills added back in, but otherwise I think the intent is good. If there was an option of this or “old” cyrodiil I would choose this.

xylena_lazarow · March 25

MincMincMinc wrote: »

Slowly pushing 90% of the playerbase to only be able to zerg or ball group.

Oh, so the same as live lol. How much have you tried to solo/1vX? Even on the fast classes you're not separating from multiples trying to zerg you down. Range spam is even worse than on live and now there's gap closer spam too. I could win 1v2 against mids on my DK but now I'm a sitting duck for zergs because I'm so slow.

I could dance around 1v3 against even good players on Warden, but there's no way to keep pressure on them so my hp keeps dropping and theirs keeps going back up. Not enough available tools to be able to properly adapt.

Dueling with Vengeance rules is surprisingly fun, I hope they add that to overworld dueling. Had a really good DK vs NB yesterday with the fight going back and forth several times, I felt like I was able to outplay to win.

MincMincMinc · March 25

xylena_lazarow wrote: »

MincMincMinc wrote: »

Slowly pushing 90% of the playerbase to only be able to zerg or ball group.

Oh, so the same as live lol. How much have you tried to solo/1vX? Even on the fast classes you're not separating from multiples trying to zerg you down. Range spam is even worse than on live and now there's gap closer spam too. I could win 1v2 against mids on my DK but now I'm a sitting duck for zergs because I'm so slow.

I could dance around 1v3 against even good players on Warden, but there's no way to keep pressure on them so my hp keeps dropping and theirs keeps going back up. Not enough available tools to be able to properly adapt.

Dueling with Vengeance rules is surprisingly fun, I hope they add that to overworld dueling. Had a really good DK vs NB yesterday with the fight going back and forth several times, I felt like I was able to outplay to win.

Ahh eso forums still not giving notifications for me. Yeah I meant for both live and vengeance. The lack of solo tools drastically hurts the noob and casual players from being able to solo or small man with friends. Good players will be able to overcome most scenarios anyways in the end.

Yeah dueling is great in vengeance because there is no BS involved. There is no proc status effect cheese hidden behind 50 dlc flashy animations that doesnt show on cmx. It is like playing a raw fighting game again. Live combat just has no clarity and is a mess design wise.