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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Keep swapping has started and its needs to stop.

Sociabear
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Lately on Dawnbreaker we have had a group of people who are intentionally swapping keeps during the day so they can zerg them all at night. They will siege lock keeps by putting oil and random siege everywhere you cant use it so people arnt able to defend. I've SS'd and reported these people along with many others who have done the same.

I don't know if this is happening elsewhere but its extremely frusterating..its about fighting other players and really working on getting keeps, defending them ect..that's the fun, not sitting afk waiting to lose all keeps just to zerg them back, its pathetic.

I would hope they would start banning people for siege locking keeps like that.
As well as just remove the emp skill line if you transfer servers until the end of the current campaign.
  • Lucardes
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    Sociabear wrote: »
    Lately on Dawnbreaker we have had a group of people who are intentionally swapping keeps during the day so they can zerg them all at night. They will siege lock keeps by putting oil and random siege everywhere you cant use it so people arnt able to defend. I've SS'd and reported these people along with many others who have done the same.

    I don't know if this is happening elsewhere but its extremely frusterating..its about fighting other players and really working on getting keeps, defending them ect..that's the fun, not sitting afk waiting to lose all keeps just to zerg them back, its pathetic.

    I would hope they would start banning people for siege locking keeps like that.
    As well as just remove the emp skill line if you transfer servers until the end of the current campaign.

    Working as intended, welcome to ESO's crappy PvP. I'm surprised you still subbed.
    Lucefer
    #1 Sorcerer in EP Dawnbreaker
  • Sociabear
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    The PvP is far from crappy, my 2 friends and I are enjoying the actual killing, but when people start doing this they will destroy all action eventually.
  • Glurin
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    Wait, so they are dropping siege engines on the walls or something and just sitting there while the enemy takes the keep? Not sure I understand how you're saying they are pulling this off.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."
  • Sihnfahl
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    Each keep has a siege limit - you can only have so many siege out.

    I'm guessing that the swappers are putting so many siege machines up for their side that nobody else can put one down to counter the incoming. So the defense becomes solely person on person.

    Assaulters break in without anyone shooting back at the siege, no oil pots to stop folks once they get in...
  • Glurin
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    Sounds a bit counter productive to me. Siege engines cost AP or gold. Is it that worth it to sabotage a bunch of keeps like that?
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."
  • maholi
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    Glurin wrote: »
    Sounds a bit counter productive to me. Siege engines cost AP or gold. Is it that worth it to sabotage a bunch of keeps like that?

    I haven't seen that happen yet, although I tend to play in the evenings. I can't imagine why DC would even do that since the majority of them are unkillable anyway.
  • joshisanonymous
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    Two things:

    1) What is stopping you from using the siege that's been placed down? Better yet, why aren't you running around pocketing tons of free siege?

    2) You can get as much AP for one solo kill as you can for helping to capture a little defended keep. If people are purposely trying to flip keeps to grind XP, they're doing it wrong.
    Edited by joshisanonymous on 14 May 2014 02:29
    Fedrals: PC / NA / EP / NB

  • maholi
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    1) You can't pocket other peoples siege.
  • Sociabear
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    You cant pocket others siege.
    You cannot use the siege they place because they place it where it wont touch the enemy choke points.
    I do not run around and just defend keeps myself and 2 others always just cut reinforcements but will go help if we are close.
    They are flipping the keep so they can recapture it to place the next person in line as emp, then they transfer off rinse and repeat. It's not about AP.
  • Glurin
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    Ah, so emperorship can't be regained or something? Or they are just trading positions. If so, then it makes sense. People wanting the emperor skill line without the work involved.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."
  • joshisanonymous
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    They still have to have the AP to get Emperor in the first place. I guess it can work for a few people who've been playing pretty non-stop since launch already.
    Fedrals: PC / NA / EP / NB

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