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Apocryphal Well Leads

Thoriorz
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Hi, what do you think about the Leads for the codex of Apocryphal Well from Treasure Maps, do you think it is more effective to block the other Leads or to dig each Leads?

I have read various things and someone says that by blocking "unwanted" Leads it is then certain that the Lead that drops is the one we want. And we simply avoid dropping duplicate Leads (which we don't want anyway).

I also heard about the opinion that blocking the Lead reduces the chance that when opening the chest the Leads will roll, simply that there is some base chance that the Lead will roll at all and then the resulting Lead roll is random and the more Leads that are not dug up the lower the chance is, so it is supposedly better to dig all of them (even the unwanted ones).


I'm currently on 4/9 codex at Apocryphal Well and I tried the Leads blocking tactic for the first time.
I have a total of 155 open Treasure Map chests and no Leads (of course the only one that could drop was the golden one for Apocryphal Well).
I have a complete codex for Leads from Treasure Maps (all 3/3) in West Weald and I did it using Leads blocking, it wasn't easy but not the worst but here in Apocryphal Well where golden Leads are concerned it seems that it doesn't work/the chances are very small...

Well, I am currently trying the second tactic of digging absolutely all Leads out of the chests.
So far I have 72 open Treasure Map chests and 27 bad (not gold) Leads.
So far, no difference from the first blocking tactic, with the only difference being that now I get Leads I don't want (or so it seems to me).

At the beginning of 2025 there should be a Pan-Tamriel event where the chances for Treasure Map Leads should be increased. Apocryphal Well Leads are also included.
I have a total of 462 Treasure Maps set aside for this event.
And I would like to know what tactics you think is better or what experience you have, what is more effective if I am interested only in the golden Leads for Apocryphal Well?

Open and dig all of them and hope to roll gold Leads or not dig the unwanted Leads?
  • Arunei
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    Maybe it's because I wasn't playing for a while thanks to a borked laptop, but uh...what even IS Lead blocking? Like I get that it's blocking certain Leads you don't want to maximize chances of getting what you do, but how does one do this?
    Character List [RP and PvE]:
    Stands-Against-Death: Argonian Magplar Healer - Crafter
    Krisiel: Redguard Stamsorc DPS - Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
    Kiju Veran: Khajiit Stamblade DPS - Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things, nicknamed Tinykat
    Niralae Elsinal: Altmer Stamsorc DPS - Young Altmer with way too much Magicka
    Sarah Lacroix: Breton Magsorc DPS - Fledgling Vampire who drinks too much water
    Slondor: Nord Tankblade - TESified verson of Slenderman
    Marius Vastino: Imperial <insert role here> - Sarah's apathetic sire who likes to monologue
    Delthor Rellenar: Dunmer Magknight DPS - Sarah's ex who's a certified psychopath
    Lirawyn Calatare: Altmer Magplar Healer - Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
    Gondryn Beldeau: Breton Tankplar - Sarah's Mages Guild mentor and certified badass old person
    Gwendolyn Jenelle: Breton Magplar Healer - Friendly healer with a coffee addiction
    Soliril Larethian- Altmer Magblade DPS - Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
    Tevril Rallenar: Dunmer Stamcro DPS - Delthor's "special" younger brother who raises small animals as friends
    Celeroth Calatare: Bosmer <insert role here> - Shapeshifting Bosmer with enough sass to fill Valenwood

    PC - NA - EP - CP1000+
    Avid RPer. Hit me up in-game @Ras_Lei if you're interested in getting together for some arr-pee shenanigans!
  • Vulsahdaal
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    Arunei wrote: »
    Maybe it's because I wasn't playing for a while thanks to a borked laptop, but uh...what even IS Lead blocking? Like I get that it's blocking certain Leads you don't want to maximize chances of getting what you do, but how does one do this?

    Well one way to do it is if you receive a lead that you dont want, just dont dig it up. Leave it there and you wont receive another one until it expires.
  • Arunei
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    Vulsahdaal wrote: »
    Arunei wrote: »
    Maybe it's because I wasn't playing for a while thanks to a borked laptop, but uh...what even IS Lead blocking? Like I get that it's blocking certain Leads you don't want to maximize chances of getting what you do, but how does one do this?

    Well one way to do it is if you receive a lead that you dont want, just dont dig it up. Leave it there and you wont receive another one until it expires.
    But doesn't that also block you from getting more Leads from that source until you do it? Like if you get a Lead from a chest, aren't you blocked from getting more Leads that drop from chests until that one is done? Or do you only have to Scry a Lead to open that 'slot' back up?
    Character List [RP and PvE]:
    Stands-Against-Death: Argonian Magplar Healer - Crafter
    Krisiel: Redguard Stamsorc DPS - Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
    Kiju Veran: Khajiit Stamblade DPS - Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things, nicknamed Tinykat
    Niralae Elsinal: Altmer Stamsorc DPS - Young Altmer with way too much Magicka
    Sarah Lacroix: Breton Magsorc DPS - Fledgling Vampire who drinks too much water
    Slondor: Nord Tankblade - TESified verson of Slenderman
    Marius Vastino: Imperial <insert role here> - Sarah's apathetic sire who likes to monologue
    Delthor Rellenar: Dunmer Magknight DPS - Sarah's ex who's a certified psychopath
    Lirawyn Calatare: Altmer Magplar Healer - Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
    Gondryn Beldeau: Breton Tankplar - Sarah's Mages Guild mentor and certified badass old person
    Gwendolyn Jenelle: Breton Magplar Healer - Friendly healer with a coffee addiction
    Soliril Larethian- Altmer Magblade DPS - Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
    Tevril Rallenar: Dunmer Stamcro DPS - Delthor's "special" younger brother who raises small animals as friends
    Celeroth Calatare: Bosmer <insert role here> - Shapeshifting Bosmer with enough sass to fill Valenwood

    PC - NA - EP - CP1000+
    Avid RPer. Hit me up in-game @Ras_Lei if you're interested in getting together for some arr-pee shenanigans!
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    Arunei wrote: »
    Vulsahdaal wrote: »
    Arunei wrote: »
    Maybe it's because I wasn't playing for a while thanks to a borked laptop, but uh...what even IS Lead blocking? Like I get that it's blocking certain Leads you don't want to maximize chances of getting what you do, but how does one do this?

    Well one way to do it is if you receive a lead that you dont want, just dont dig it up. Leave it there and you wont receive another one until it expires.
    But doesn't that also block you from getting more Leads from that source until you do it? Like if you get a Lead from a chest, aren't you blocked from getting more Leads that drop from chests until that one is done? Or do you only have to Scry a Lead to open that 'slot' back up?

    @Arunei Nope. You can get multiple. Pretty much the only method to aid someone in getting a specific lead from treasure maps or some other source that have multiple leads.
    Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on 22 December 2024 16:00
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  • DenverRalphy
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    Arunei wrote: »
    Vulsahdaal wrote: »
    Arunei wrote: »
    Maybe it's because I wasn't playing for a while thanks to a borked laptop, but uh...what even IS Lead blocking? Like I get that it's blocking certain Leads you don't want to maximize chances of getting what you do, but how does one do this?

    Well one way to do it is if you receive a lead that you dont want, just dont dig it up. Leave it there and you wont receive another one until it expires.
    But doesn't that also block you from getting more Leads from that source until you do it? Like if you get a Lead from a chest, aren't you blocked from getting more Leads that drop from chests until that one is done? Or do you only have to Scry a Lead to open that 'slot' back up?

    Nope. For example: If you're looking for a specific motif chapter for Ancient Akaviri from Blackwood treasure maps, the best way to not get duplicates is to not dig up the chapters you already have. Because the leads arent curated, and you don't want to keep getting one of the 13 you already have when all you are looking for is the boots to compete the set.

    Edited by DenverRalphy on 22 December 2024 16:03
  • Arunei
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    Well heck, idk where I got the idea that you were blocked from getting a Lead from x or y source if you had one from there already. That's a good thing to know.
    Character List [RP and PvE]:
    Stands-Against-Death: Argonian Magplar Healer - Crafter
    Krisiel: Redguard Stamsorc DPS - Literally crazy Werewolf, no like legit insane. She nuts
    Kiju Veran: Khajiit Stamblade DPS - Ex-Fighters Guild Suthay who likes to punch things, nicknamed Tinykat
    Niralae Elsinal: Altmer Stamsorc DPS - Young Altmer with way too much Magicka
    Sarah Lacroix: Breton Magsorc DPS - Fledgling Vampire who drinks too much water
    Slondor: Nord Tankblade - TESified verson of Slenderman
    Marius Vastino: Imperial <insert role here> - Sarah's apathetic sire who likes to monologue
    Delthor Rellenar: Dunmer Magknight DPS - Sarah's ex who's a certified psychopath
    Lirawyn Calatare: Altmer Magplar Healer - Traveling performer and bard who's 101% vanilla bean
    Gondryn Beldeau: Breton Tankplar - Sarah's Mages Guild mentor and certified badass old person
    Gwendolyn Jenelle: Breton Magplar Healer - Friendly healer with a coffee addiction
    Soliril Larethian- Altmer Magblade DPS - Blind alchemist who uses animals to see and brews plagues in his spare time
    Tevril Rallenar: Dunmer Stamcro DPS - Delthor's "special" younger brother who raises small animals as friends
    Celeroth Calatare: Bosmer <insert role here> - Shapeshifting Bosmer with enough sass to fill Valenwood

    PC - NA - EP - CP1000+
    Avid RPer. Hit me up in-game @Ras_Lei if you're interested in getting together for some arr-pee shenanigans!
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