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Bug: Mmr loss in 8v8

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Thumbless_Bot
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When people drop the group in 8v8 we are getting a notice that our mmr will drop less. Isn't mmr supposed to be exclusive to 4v4?
Edited by ZOS_Kevin on 7 November 2024 12:37
  • Aldoss
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    MMR is (allegedly) still present in all queues, but ranking won't contribute to your (meaningless) leaderboard rank.
  • Thumbless_Bot
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    Aldoss wrote: »
    MMR is (allegedly) still present in all queues, but ranking won't contribute to your (meaningless) leaderboard rank.

    Can we get someone at zos to confirm? This doesnt seem to jive with the apparent noncompetitive nature of 8v8. @ZOS_Kevin

    Thanks aldoss.
    Edited by Thumbless_Bot on 5 November 2024 16:34
  • acastanza_ESO
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    There are some new API functions that allow you to get your current character's MMR.

    You can use the chat command
    /script d(GetPlayerMMRByType(LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION))
    to get your current character's MMR and print it to chat.

    It should be a simple matter of seeing if your MMR before and after the BG is actually different. I would suspect that it's just a bad filter in the notification.

    Fun fact, MMR is in the game code for way more than BGs (including dungeons, Cyro, etc) it just doesn't actually compute values and always reports 0.
  • Thumbless_Bot
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    acastanza_ESO wrote: »
    There are some new API functions that allow you to get your current character's MMR.

    You can use the chat command
    /script d(GetPlayerMMRByType(LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION))
    to get your current character's MMR and print it to chat.

    It should be a simple matter of seeing if your MMR before and after the BG is actually different. I would suspect that it's just a bad filter in the notification.

    Fun fact, MMR is in the game code for way more than BGs (including dungeons, Cyro, etc) it just doesn't actually compute values and always reports 0.

    This is awesome. Will try.

    Are there any parameters/variables that you can enter to say, get another players mmr... 🤔
  • acastanza_ESO
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    Thumbless_Bot wrote: »
    acastanza_ESO wrote: »
    There are some new API functions that allow you to get your current character's MMR.

    You can use the chat command
    /script d(GetPlayerMMRByType(LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION))
    to get your current character's MMR and print it to chat.

    It should be a simple matter of seeing if your MMR before and after the BG is actually different. I would suspect that it's just a bad filter in the notification.

    Fun fact, MMR is in the game code for way more than BGs (including dungeons, Cyro, etc) it just doesn't actually compute values and always reports 0.

    This is awesome. Will try.

    Are there any parameters/variables that you can enter to say, get another players mmr... 🤔

    Unfortunately no lol, you can only get your own.
    I am going to add some functions to track your own MMR to PvpAlerts though once I get some time to run a couple BGs myself and make sure they're working properly.
  • SkaraMinoc
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    acastanza_ESO wrote: »
    You can use the chat command
    /script d(GetPlayerMMRByType(LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION))
    to get your current character's MMR and print it to chat.

    This doesn't seem to work for me. It returns 0 for any LFG Activity I try.

    I just won a 4v4 and an 8v8 and LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION (7) still shows as 0.

    59Xrfd5.png
    XPAZO4c.png
    Edited by SkaraMinoc on 7 November 2024 23:13
    PC NA
  • acastanza_ESO
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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    acastanza_ESO wrote: »
    You can use the chat command
    /script d(GetPlayerMMRByType(LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION))
    to get your current character's MMR and print it to chat.

    This doesn't seem to work for me. It returns 0 for any LFG Activity I try.

    I just won a 4v4 and an 8v8 and LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION (7) still shows as 0.

    59Xrfd5.png
    XPAZO4c.png

    Weird, that came straight from the API documentation, maybe the function isn't working then? Or MMR is just broken....
    I'll see if the UI dev chat has any ideas
    Edited by acastanza_ESO on 7 November 2024 23:45
  • acastanza_ESO
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    SkaraMinoc wrote: »
    acastanza_ESO wrote: »
    You can use the chat command
    /script d(GetPlayerMMRByType(LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION))
    to get your current character's MMR and print it to chat.

    This doesn't seem to work for me. It returns 0 for any LFG Activity I try.

    I just won a 4v4 and an 8v8 and LFG_ACTIVITY_BATTLE_GROUND_NON_CHAMPION (7) still shows as 0.

    59Xrfd5.png
    XPAZO4c.png

    I heard back from the UI devs, this function is, in fact, not working currently. RIP.
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    I checked this too and returns 0
  • darvaria
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    I got some message about MMR when I entered an 8v8. I think I had just played a 4v4. (by mistake) The message popped off so quick I didn't read it.
    Edited by darvaria on 15 November 2024 20:41
  • Thumbless_Bot
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    darvaria wrote: »
    I got some message about MMR when I entered an 8v8. I think I had just played a 4v4. (by mistake) The message popped off so quick I didn't read it.

    Probably the, "someone left the bg so your mmr will be reduced my less" message.
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