How much would you pay for crossplay Xbox and PS

o_Primate_o · November 4

If you could toggle crossplay with Xbox/PS in one server, how much would you be willing to pay if it would sweeten the deal for Microsoft and Sony to play nice - at least where ESO is concerned so servers could be merged?

fizzylu · November 4

So we're at the point where we feel like we need to bribe them? Yikes.

tomofhyrule · November 4

The problem with Crossplay is that ESO is set up with a megaserver architecture. As the devs have said several times, there is no way to merge the servers as is.

What they would need to do to enable crossplay is essentially make a new server and then copy the existing accounts into the new server, before finally deleting the old megaservers.

That of course leads to questions:

If two players have the same account name, which player is forced to change it? This is doubly difficult since the @ name for console is the gamertag from the console, so then if you have the same tag as an account on the other console, it would conflict. Also remember that it would be a brand new server, so would they have to append "-XB" or "-PS" onto every account name for that?
How would you deal with character name conflicts. Again, ESO is set up assuming that every character on a server has a unique name. If all consoles were condensed into one megaserver, then who wins name conflicts?
Which servers are set to merge? Are they supposed to merge all four console servers into one, or will it just be two regional servers: console EU and console NA?
Will the legal teams play nice with that? I'm sure there are a lot of legalese they have to get through, specifically in the case that Sony will not be okay with the idea of people being able to not play on a Sony console.

There is a lot more involved in this than "oh, let's just push the 'crossplay on' button," and ZOS has been saying for years what their architecture is and how it differs from the architecture of other MMOs (i.e. the Megaserver architecture that allows literally every account on one server to interact). However, that makes adding crossplay much harder and will almost take a reimagining of the 10-year old system. Deleting and remaking the servers into one seems like the best possible option, but it would be ripe for conflicts... and the fact that we had the PTS/PCNA issue in April doesn't do much to inspire confidence.

Tandor · November 4

Don't care.

I don't believe it can be done with ESO - technically, contractually, or viably.

People will claim precedent in other games that were either designed for it or at least designed in a very different way, but precedent isn't just about that or indeed the PTS/PCNA debacle earlier in the year. Precedent is also about the way in which multiple things in ESO that some players wanted ended up being implemented in a way that not even they wanted, let alone those who were opposed to those things in the first place.

What about the console players who don't want to play on other servers, are they just to be left high and dry?

As always, be careful what you wish for...

kargen27 · November 4

Don't care.

I play on PC thus my vote.

Maitsukas · November 4

Forget about it already (sigh)

tomofhyrule wrote: »

If two players have the same account name, which player is forced to change it? This is doubly difficult since the @ name for console is the gamertag from the console, so then if you have the same tag as an account on the other console, it would conflict. Also remember that it would be a brand new server, so would they have to append "-XB" or "-PS" onto every account name for that?

How would you deal with character name conflicts. Again, ESO is set up assuming that every character on a server has a unique name. If all consoles were condensed into one megaserver, then who wins name conflicts?

This basically also applies to player guilds, and that one is really problematic, since there is no way for players to change the name of the guild.

TaSheen · November 4

I'm not going to vote, because "don't care" is not how I feel. I don't want to see crossplay between PC and anything else including both PC megaservers, and that's definitely for me not a "don't care" vote.

Whatever happens with consoles, I hope it helps those who play on those platforms.

Hapexamendios · November 4

I wouldn't pay for it.

Theist_VII · November 4

Matt Firor has already stated that there have been backend changes that would allow for Crossplay now, but it’s a massive work load and it’s something they are looking into but it will take some time, and that interview was around Gold Road.

Keeping in mind that ZOS have stated on multiple occasions that they have content road maps 2 years out, I doubt we’ll see Crossplay next year, despite how much I believe the game needs it.

Theist_VII · November 5

Also want to add, these Poll options are pretty horrible. I’m not willing to pay any money for this, and neither should anyone else.

Arunei · November 5

To add to the possible issues the first person who posted listed, what about add-ons? Console doesn't have them, so would PC have to give up ours to play with console? Even those of us who don't want cross-play and/or don't want to play without said add-ons? Because there's no viable way for console to have access to using them since they're unofficial and there aren't any that are specifically endorsed by ZOS or anything of that nature for them to make some sort of "certified add-ons" list somewhere for console to use.

Rkindaleft · November 5

Just have it be free?

Amottica · November 5

fizzylu wrote: »

So we're at the point where we feel like we need to bribe them? Yikes.

and it will not work as that is unlikely the issue.

TaSheen · November 5

Amottica wrote: »

fizzylu wrote: »

So we're at the point where we feel like we need to bribe them? Yikes.

and it will not work as that is unlikely the issue.

One more vote for "be careful what you ask for".

DreamyLu · November 5

Don't care.

I'm simply not concerned as I play on computer.

I don't know why PS and Xbox servers are separated. Is there a technical reason that is a roadblock for implementation?

fizl101 · November 5

I wouldnt pay for it

opalcity · November 5

Bad Poll.

Couldn't vote because I wouldn't pay for cross platform, but not because of "overcrowding"

Even if Zenimax announced that they worked out a way to effortlessly merge the servers and no-one loses their names or guilds, I still wouldn't pay extra.

If you're on PS+ and ESO+, you're already paying twice to play this game.

Tandor · November 5

Don't care.

TaSheen wrote: »

I'm not going to vote, because "don't care" is not how I feel. I don't want to see crossplay between PC and anything else including both PC megaservers, and that's definitely for me not a "don't care" vote.

Whatever happens with consoles, I hope it helps those who play on those platforms.

I agree with your point about PC, but as the OP only referred specifically to console users coming together it wouldn't concern me.

Meiox · November 5

Don't care.

tomofhyrule wrote: »

The problem with Crossplay is that ESO is set up with a megaserver architecture. As the devs have said several times, there is no way to merge the servers as is.

What they would need to do to enable crossplay is essentially make a new server and then copy the existing accounts into the new server, before finally deleting the old megaservers.

That of course leads to questions:
If two players have the same account name, which player is forced to change it? This is doubly difficult since the @ name for console is the gamertag from the console, so then if you have the same tag as an account on the other console, it would conflict. Also remember that it would be a brand new server, so would they have to append "-XB" or "-PS" onto every account name for that?

How would you deal with character name conflicts. Again, ESO is set up assuming that every character on a server has a unique name. If all consoles were condensed into one megaserver, then who wins name conflicts?

Which servers are set to merge? Are they supposed to merge all four console servers into one, or will it just be two regional servers: console EU and console NA?

Will the legal teams play nice with that? I'm sure there are a lot of legalese they have to get through, specifically in the case that Sony will not be okay with the idea of people being able to not play on a Sony console.

There is a lot more involved in this than "oh, let's just push the 'crossplay on' button," and ZOS has been saying for years what their architecture is and how it differs from the architecture of other MMOs (i.e. the Megaserver architecture that allows literally every account on one server to interact). However, that makes adding crossplay much harder and will almost take a reimagining of the 10-year old system. Deleting and remaking the servers into one seems like the best possible option, but it would be ripe for conflicts... and the fact that we had the PTS/PCNA issue in April doesn't do much to inspire confidence.

And what if you allready have an account on both system? Would you have 40 characters on the merged account, if you have both accounts maxed out ?

Arrow312 · November 5

Theist_VII wrote: »

Also want to add, these Poll options are pretty horrible. I’m not willing to pay any money for this, and neither should anyone else.

THIS!!!!!

I paid for ESO + Xbox Gold....why should i pay a extra fee for crossplay. Newer games have it included.

fizzylu · November 5

Arrow312 wrote: »

Newer games have it included.

Even older ones do, haha.

moderatelyfatman · November 5

Forget about it already (sigh)

The problem with ESO for PC users is that the game is a lot less fun to play without Addons. I'm not just talking combat addons but quality of life addons such as a Mini-map, Interface and automated crafting addons. No way am I giving up those for cross play.

In a different reality, ZOS would have noticed that these features were in high demand and implemented it into the core game.

Amottica · November 5

TaSheen wrote: »

Amottica wrote: »

fizzylu wrote: »

So we're at the point where we feel like we need to bribe them? Yikes.

and it will not work as that is unlikely the issue.

One more vote for "be careful what you ask for".

lol. so true.

Rogue_Coyote · November 5

Cross-platform play is a great idea in theory, but I feel anyone not on a pc will be short handed. No addons being a major reason why.

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