Where are people getting these sellable Crown-only furnishings?

ateola · January 7

I've noticed furnishings occasionally sold at traders that, according to the usual sources, should be bound to your account... and yet people are selling them, and I'm struggling to figure out where people are getting these items. These are furnishings that, according to ESO Fashion/UESP/ESO-Hub, are only obtainable either through houses that can only be obtained with crowns (sometimes furnished, sometimes unfurnished), or directly through the Housing Editor purchase tab, if any source is listed at all.

Examples include:

Vines, Sun-Bronzed Ivy Swath (crown-only houses and crown store)
Dwarven Sconce, Polished Barred
Dwarven Lantern, Polished Wall (two crown-only houses have it, or you can buy from crown store)
Tree, Towering Snowy Fir
Tree, Snowy Fir
Tree, Tall Snowy Fir

My understanding is that if you buy a house with gold, only then can you sell the furnishings that come with it. And yet! Every item on the list I've been able to eventually purchase from a trader. (The Dwarven sconce I purchased x5 from one person over 3 days, so I know that's not a drop).

Does anyone know where people are getting these sellable furnishings?

BixenteN7Akantor · January 7

@ElderOfTamriel would know everything about this. If my memory is correct, there was a time when you bought a house with crowns, the furnishings weren't bound. So right now those are very old items :d

Pixiepumpkin · January 7

I think those are just old items....but it would be interesting to find out if someone is duping them somehow (I personally think there is duping going on with some uber rare items, as I see the same people list them over and over).

freespirit · January 7

Some Crown only houses on their original release came with certain furnishings in an unbound state, this was pretty much always "fixed" by the next time they were available.

I suspect these are just those furnishings circulating many years on, in the case of the dwarven lights, remember these houses don't just have one of each type they have several, many people brought these houses at release, so there's likely a lot buried forgotten in peoples bags. Other furnishings too. 🙂

ElderOfTamriel · January 9

BixenteN7Akantor wrote: »

@ElderOfTamriel would know everything about this. If my memory is correct, there was a time when you bought a house with crowns, the furnishings weren't bound. So right now those are very old items :d

haha cool you remember ^^ yeah youre right i know alot about stuff like that

Your explanation is not fully correct, neither is freespirit's answer. If it would only been by just buying a house with crowns, they would not be so rare.
I am collecting rare furnishings in general, rare drops which come with the vanilla game. Completed my collection on all paintings so far and im very short away from having every other rare drop too (damn Vvardenfell plants...)

House gifting wasnt always a thing since housing was introduced with Homestead. During these early housing days, you were not able to gift houses to other players, if you wanted a house that was not purchasable atm, you could reach out to the support and they would eventually "gift" (e.q. unlock) the house for you for the amount of crowns they needed. But those came completelly unfurnished, not "unfurnished" like we are used to know houses. Most do still contain a few items.

Happy researching and good luck with your collection!

ElderOfTamriel · January 9

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I think those are just old items....but it would be interesting to find out if someone is duping them somehow (I personally think there is duping going on with some uber rare items, as I see the same people list them over and over).

how would you dupe such items? Thats technically not possible

Pixiepumpkin · January 9

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I think those are just old items....but it would be interesting to find out if someone is duping them somehow (I personally think there is duping going on with some uber rare items, as I see the same people list them over and over).

how would you dupe such items? Thats technically not possible

I don't know, but item duping is a thing in live service games. Its just another possible explanation as to why certain people get the rarest patterns and items that can't be had in game.

ElderOfTamriel · January 9

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I think those are just old items....but it would be interesting to find out if someone is duping them somehow (I personally think there is duping going on with some uber rare items, as I see the same people list them over and over).

how would you dupe such items? Thats technically not possible

I don't know, but item duping is a thing in live service games. Its just another possible explanation as to why certain people get the rarest patterns and items that can't be had in game.

i would not know how such thing should be possible. That probably works in other games but im pretty sure it doesnt in ESO

Pixiepumpkin · January 9

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I think those are just old items....but it would be interesting to find out if someone is duping them somehow (I personally think there is duping going on with some uber rare items, as I see the same people list them over and over).

how would you dupe such items? Thats technically not possible

I don't know, but item duping is a thing in live service games. Its just another possible explanation as to why certain people get the rarest patterns and items that can't be had in game.

i would not know how such thing should be possible. That probably works in other games but im pretty sure it doesnt in ESO

Cheats exist for ESO. If its digital, it can be hacked. There is no 100% hackproof software. And if the person duping was low key and not abusive, I doubt zemiax would ever know.

EDIT: I loath cheaters, absolutely can't stand them and If I had my dothers, I'd be much more harsh against them even to the point of jail time (same with people who litter, but that is another tale).

All I am saying is not to discount the idea that cheating is not taking place. I have seen some unexplainable stuff in game that game mechanics do not explain.

If cheating can take place in WOW, New World, Battlefield franchse, COD, Overwatch, I mean the list goes on and on, don't think for one second this game is immune to it.

ElderOfTamriel · January 9

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I think those are just old items....but it would be interesting to find out if someone is duping them somehow (I personally think there is duping going on with some uber rare items, as I see the same people list them over and over).

how would you dupe such items? Thats technically not possible

I don't know, but item duping is a thing in live service games. Its just another possible explanation as to why certain people get the rarest patterns and items that can't be had in game.

i would not know how such thing should be possible. That probably works in other games but im pretty sure it doesnt in ESO

Cheats exist for ESO. If its digital, it can be hacked. There is no 100% hackproof software. And if the person duping was low key and not abusive, I doubt zemiax would ever know.

EDIT: I loath cheaters, absolutely can't stand them and If I had my dothers, I'd be much more harsh against them even to the point of jail time (same with people who litter, but that is another tale).

All I am saying is not to discount the idea that cheating is not taking place. I have seen some unexplainable stuff in game that game mechanics do not explain.

If cheating can take place in WOW, New World, Battlefield franchse, COD, Overwatch, I mean the list goes on and on, don't think for one second this game is immune to it.

Sure there is never 100%. What unexplainable stuff have you withnessed? Im interested now ^^

ElderOfTamriel · September 18

@Pixiepumpkin Still waiting on an answer from you

ElderOfTamriel · October 1

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

ElderOfTamriel wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

I think those are just old items....but it would be interesting to find out if someone is duping them somehow (I personally think there is duping going on with some uber rare items, as I see the same people list them over and over).

how would you dupe such items? Thats technically not possible

I don't know, but item duping is a thing in live service games. Its just another possible explanation as to why certain people get the rarest patterns and items that can't be had in game.

i would not know how such thing should be possible. That probably works in other games but im pretty sure it doesnt in ESO

Cheats exist for ESO. If its digital, it can be hacked. There is no 100% hackproof software. And if the person duping was low key and not abusive, I doubt zemiax would ever know.

EDIT: I loath cheaters, absolutely can't stand them and If I had my dothers, I'd be much more harsh against them even to the point of jail time (same with people who litter, but that is another tale).

All I am saying is not to discount the idea that cheating is not taking place. I have seen some unexplainable stuff in game that game mechanics do not explain.

If cheating can take place in WOW, New World, Battlefield franchse, COD, Overwatch, I mean the list goes on and on, don't think for one second this game is immune to it.

@Pixiepumpkin Pixie come on, you can't start like that and then refuse to answer. Im really curious which strange things you witnessed and which items you think got duplicated.

i probably have an explanation for that, i got a kinda deep knowledge about rare items