Modernized Mannimarco

FabresFour · September 22

Would you like a modernization of Mannimarco in the Main Quest, so he represents the danger he should represent? The use of a skin to make his complexion more pale, strange eyes to make him appear more powerful, and the new white hair that more closely resembles his hair from the cinematic trailer...?

Here, I tried to create a character still of advanced age, but one that resembled the Mannimarco we see in the ESO cinematic trailer a bit more.

Syldras · September 22

Nah, I prefer a remake closer to official concept art - you can choose which one

FabresFour · September 22

Syldras wrote: »

Nah, I prefer a remake closer to official concept art - you can choose which one

I really like the Concept Arts of Nuare Studios, especially the second one, but I think it would never work in ESO because of the very long hair and the very skinny look. Unfortunately, very skinny characters in ESO tend to end up looking big-headed LOL

Mascen · September 22

I think alot of the base vanilla game could use brushing up here or there.

For example, maybe updating the armor of the Auridon Marines or the Lion Guard to reflect their elite status in their respective alliances while also offering it as a crown store item for people to buy

TaSheen · September 22

*shrug* Doesn't matter to me. I'll never interact with him (or the game MQ) again.

FabresFour · September 22

Mascen wrote: »

I think alot of the base vanilla game could use brushing up here or there.

For example, maybe updating the armor of the Auridon Marines or the Lion Guard to reflect their elite status in their respective alliances while also offering it as a crown store item for people to buy

Well, all the factions that have new armor should really get a rework.

The Red Hook bandits, the Lion Guard with the new armor.

Is it that hard to take these NPCs and swap their armor in a patch? I've always wondered about that, I'd like to tag one of the admins because it's a small update that could breathe some new life into the base game with things that have already been created.

Syldras · September 22

FabresFour wrote: »

Unfortunately, very skinny characters in ESO tend to end up looking big-headed LOL

My main is extremely skinny and I think his proportions look fine (at least no one complained yet

). And it's not like ZOS couldn't adjust the sliders a little differently than we players can through the editor.

TheMajority · September 22

I don't think he looks like he's of advanced age in your picture. I like your picture and find it looks very nice, and that the character, he looks made well- but I think he is very handsome

LunaFlora · September 22

Syldras wrote: »

Nah, I prefer a remake closer to official concept art - you can choose which one

those are beautiful wow, sad that mannimarco doesn't look like one of those

Soarora · September 22

Mannimarco could be upgraded, at least to have better hair, but I wouldn’t go as far as to make him otherworldly-looking as he’s not a lich yet to my understanding. If he IS a lich already then he should look more like a lich.

Sarannah · September 22

Wouldn't mind a modernized look on him. But mostly I would love to have an entirely new follow-up story around Mannimarco. It's a major ESO/main quest villain who's story we left behind for no good reason. Would love to see some sort of conclusion to his story.

Either we released him, and he may ask us to aid him in his new quest for gaining "power" yet again(which obviously we won't), or we left him there to be tortured for all eternity and he escapes to come back with the need to take revenge on us for spoiling his previous masterplan(which we won't let happen).

Maybe Mannimarco and Sheogorath working together to do something .... 'crazy'! Which we must prevent from happening.

Bradyfjord · September 22

Soarora wrote: »

Mannimarco could be upgraded, at least to have better hair, but I wouldn’t go as far as to make him otherworldly-looking as he’s not a lich yet to my understanding. If he IS a lich already then he should look more like a lich.

My opinion about Manninarco is that his ability with necromancy is so advanced that he is on another level. He seems beyond being a lich or other undead.

Syldras · September 22

Bradyfjord wrote: »

My opinion about Manninarco is that his ability with necromancy is so advanced that he is on another level. He seems beyond being a lich or other undead.

So how would you depict him? Mannimarco has been in several TES games and his appearance varied a lot (and didn't he swap or completely alter/renew his physical body at some points according to the lore?).

Bradyfjord · September 22

Syldras wrote: »

Bradyfjord wrote: »

My opinion about Manninarco is that his ability with necromancy is so advanced that he is on another level. He seems beyond being a lich or other undead.

So how would you depict him? Mannimarco has been in several TES games and his appearance varied a lot (and didn't he swap or completely alter/renew his physical body at some points according to the lore?).

Whatever he wants. But since he is so arrogant, I suspect he will want to look as much like his original form as possible.

Vevvev · September 23

FabresFour wrote: »

Is it that hard to take these NPCs and swap their armor in a patch? I've always wondered about that, I'd like to tag one of the admins because it's a small update that could breathe some new life into the base game with things that have already been created.

I actually kind of prefer the old Breton armor styles to some of the new stuff. It's simple, and if they're going to do a brush-up I'd rather have them streamline the textures and fix the floating stuff rather than completely replace the style with something new.

SeaGtGruff · September 23

Bleah, those concept art images don't do anything for me, although the fourth one is a maybe.

Anumaril · September 23

I still pray every day that they release an updated Mannimarco Costume to make it more similar to the cinematic. When the original was made there were graphic limitations (and arty style direction limitations) that prevented them from making it as detailed as in the cinematics. But both of those issues are now not the case, so I'd love to get a cinematic-accurate costume for him now.

Syldras · September 23

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

Bleah, those concept art images don't do anything for me

This seems more like an argument in favor or if, as this is exactly the correct reaction if you see an evil necromancer

And he's very evil; he dresses inappropriately for a former member of the Elder Council and advisor to the emperor.

Anumaril wrote: »

I still pray every day that they release an updated Mannimarco Costume to make it more similar to the cinematic.

As long as he doesn't get those comically long ears.

Soarora · September 23

Bradyfjord wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Mannimarco could be upgraded, at least to have better hair, but I wouldn’t go as far as to make him otherworldly-looking as he’s not a lich yet to my understanding. If he IS a lich already then he should look more like a lich.

My opinion about Manninarco is that his ability with necromancy is so advanced that he is on another level. He seems beyond being a lich or other undead.

He’s not really beyond being a lich, as he’s very proud about his lichdom and claims he’s the first lich (he’s not). Its just not clear to me on if he’s already a lich or not. Can’t really tell what he looks like as a lich since I think his only appearance as one is Daggerfall and he’s wearing a cloak, but his eyes do glow blue so I feel that would be the indicator since I don’t think he’d appear as Default Lich Model.

mdjessup4906 · September 23

Nah he looks fine as he is. I don't like the trailer version it's just another generic hot villian. They could do to clean up the textures and models though.

emilyhyoyeon · September 23

Syldras wrote: »

Nah, I prefer a remake closer to official concept art - you can choose which one

I've never seen these before and woah. First and fourth especially are chef's kiss, simply great, I would kill to see this design in game.

Heck bring him back for TES6 with this design. Make a TES movie about him with this design. A TES TV show, anything, with this design.

But yeah an updated Mannimarco would be nice, updated textures at the very least, and no floating shoulders lol

EF321 · September 23

Grim harvester costume is pretty much update Manimarco

TX12001rwb17_ESO · September 23

Soarora wrote: »

Bradyfjord wrote: »

Soarora wrote: »

Mannimarco could be upgraded, at least to have better hair, but I wouldn’t go as far as to make him otherworldly-looking as he’s not a lich yet to my understanding. If he IS a lich already then he should look more like a lich.

My opinion about Manninarco is that his ability with necromancy is so advanced that he is on another level. He seems beyond being a lich or other undead.

He’s not really beyond being a lich, as he’s very proud about his lichdom and claims he’s the first lich (he’s not). Its just not clear to me on if he’s already a lich or not. Can’t really tell what he looks like as a lich since I think his only appearance as one is Daggerfall and he’s wearing a cloak, but his eyes do glow blue so I feel that would be the indicator since I don’t think he’d appear as Default Lich Model.

That appearance is Daggerfall is a color swapped sprite shared by members of the Mage's Guild.

Jaimeh · September 23

Syldras wrote: »

Nah, I prefer a remake closer to official concept art - you can choose which one

I love trailer!marco and the first three examples are similar to his trailer depiction, so I'd be all for his avatar looking like that in the game. I would still relish his downfall but I wouldn't mind it if looked awesome in the process

Syldras · September 23

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

I've never seen these before and woah. First and fourth especially are chef's kiss, simply great, I would kill to see this design in game.
Heck bring him back for TES6 with this design. Make a TES movie about him with this design. A TES TV show, anything, with this design.

And then they give us the Oblivion version where he couldn't even afford shoes

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

That appearance is Daggerfall is a color swapped sprite shared by members of the Mage's Guild.

But not all of them. Do you mean these?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/File:DF-npc-Cabal.png
This is the Cabal, Daedra summoners (and probably worshippers of Daedric Princes). In the end, that's the simple "dark mage with hooded robe/cloak" cliché that was extremely common at that time. And with that graphics, things had to be kept relatively undetailed anyway.

RaikaNA · September 23

Don't change anything. Mannimarco looks hot just the way he is now...

ADawg · September 26

No, I want quality PVP.