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Battle-Spirit's HP Bonus should scale off a Health Cap
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This has probably been talked before, but since the Tank players are a problem in Cyro, this could help a bit too.
This is but a small thing, but I think it can help:
Battle-Spirit should not add it's 5k Health-Bonus if the Player has an HP of 30K-plus.
If a player has 27k, instead of going to 33k it could be at a flat 30k.
If it has 18k, it goes to 23k and so go on.
The Health-Scaling Skills can be double checked later on, but just this minor thing would help a lot.
Throw in a healing debuff as well, since we are not locking cross-healing into groups, could be something like this:
"Increases you HP and decreases your healing received based on the amount of HP you have"
Could have a 5% healing debuff at every 5k HP past 30k HP.
If someone wants to commit to having up to 40k and on, let him be.
Add exceptions to buffs, unique buffs and sets, so that Death Dealer Mythic, Warden Passive, Aylied Wells work past this.
Edited by Spin on 22 September 2024 17:04 This is but a small thing, but I think it can help:
Battle-Spirit should not add it's 5k Health-Bonus if the Player has an HP of 30K-plus.
If a player has 27k, instead of going to 33k it could be at a flat 30k.
If it has 18k, it goes to 23k and so go on.
The Health-Scaling Skills can be double checked later on, but just this minor thing would help a lot.
Throw in a healing debuff as well, since we are not locking cross-healing into groups, could be something like this:
"Increases you HP and decreases your healing received based on the amount of HP you have"
Could have a 5% healing debuff at every 5k HP past 30k HP.
If someone wants to commit to having up to 40k and on, let him be.
Add exceptions to buffs, unique buffs and sets, so that Death Dealer Mythic, Warden Passive, Aylied Wells work past this.
@SpinESO, PC-NA
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Synapsis123✭✭✭✭✭This is the battle spirit on PTS. It looks like they removed the 5k HP bonus, but it wasn't in the patch notes.
Edited by Synapsis123 on 22 September 2024 17:102 -
Spin✭✭Synapsis123 wrote: »This is the battle spirit on PTS. It looks like they removed the 5k HP bonus, but it wasn't in the patch notes.
It's interesting, but I still find it a bit concerning, most players running Prism-Glyphs, 3-2-2/4-2-1, HP Race still have their base HP around 29k unbuffed, which can still translate into 35k+, going more than what they would have with Battle-Spirit's 5k.
This 20% bonus is up to 1k bonus HP for players who have that threshold. Player's with already high base HP of 35k would receive other buff (going to 42k instead of 40k for example). It serves more as a nerf to Squishies.
But well, maybe they can rework the skills that are based off max HP after that. I know that in PvE it makes sense because of Tank's Self-heal, but since it's the Healer's job as well they could downplay the amount of scaling that goes off into things like that.@SpinESO, PC-NA
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Synapsis123✭✭✭✭✭The mitigation is gone off battle spirit so the extra hp isn't really a concern. Along with the extra weapon damage being given now it should cause people to die much faster.Edited by Synapsis123 on 22 September 2024 17:310
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LinusMain✭✭Huh, did Battle Spirit got completely overhauled in PTS? It's not in the patch notes.Edited by LinusMain on 22 September 2024 17:550 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Huh, is Battle Spirit actually got completely overhauled in PTS? It's not in the patch notes.
I went to PTS & in Cyro, this is what I got. So I am not sure what the other screenshot is. BGs or IC will have "different" Battle Spirit ? ?
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This is Battle Spirit in IC on PTS. I guess so far it is same as on Live. So I would guess it is maybe BGs that will have different Battle Spirit ? Idk. Is it possible that it is a troll post ? ? ?
Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on 22 September 2024 18:091 -
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✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »
They're trolling lol. The beauty of "photoshop", etc.Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Synapsis123✭✭✭✭✭Please don't troll on the PTS forums. I've included a video of the battle spirit on PTS. You are using a screenshot of the live battle spirit.
https://youtu.be/e28QCYvHSis Edited by Synapsis123 on 22 September 2024 18:265 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Synapsis123 wrote: »Please don't troll on the PTS forums. I've included a video of the battle spirit on PTS. You are using a screenshot of the live battle spirit.https://youtu.be/e28QCYvHSis
Well, I will post un-cropped screenshots. It is PTS. Max CP & PTS exclusive items & description of Battle Spirit is same as on live.
The thing I have noticed is that you have some add-on related UI error. I have nothing like this, as I have no add-ons on PTS. Weird....
My guess is that may be an add-on doing this.
Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on 22 September 2024 19:332 -
Synapsis123✭✭✭✭✭If that isn't battle spirit then explain to me what buff gives 20% hp and 25% weapon and spell damage?0
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This is from update 29Synapsis123 wrote: »If that isn't battle spirit then explain to me what buff gives 20% hp and 25% weapon and spell damage?
None of them do a few years back they added the 5k health value into the leveling experience from 1 to 50 and also added a 1k spell / weapon damage bonus to the leveling stat increase its all apart of the leveling system it's not a buff you always have it no matter if you are in pve or pvpEdited by J18696 on 22 September 2024 21:110 -
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✭Synapsis123 wrote: »This is the battle spirit on PTS. It looks like they removed the 5k HP bonus, but it wasn't in the patch notes.Synapsis123 wrote: »Please don't troll on the PTS forums. I've included a video of the battle spirit on PTS. You are using a screenshot of the live battle spirit.https://youtu.be/e28QCYvHSis
Troll be gone!!! You may have a better ability to draw lines than me but I... don't live under a bridge (or something like that, I guess):
Edited by Wuuffyy on 22 September 2024 22:01Wuuffyy,
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MincMincMinc✭✭✭Health as a whole is too easy to get, and its tension choices are worthless. That is why it is so prevalent. Making rules to try to curb just health is silly. Instead make the other stat choices matter.
Max mag and stam are useless for anyone that isnt a magsorc.2 -
Synapsis123✭✭✭✭✭Synapsis123 wrote: »This is the battle spirit on PTS. It looks like they removed the 5k HP bonus, but it wasn't in the patch notes.Synapsis123 wrote: »Please don't troll on the PTS forums. I've included a video of the battle spirit on PTS. You are using a screenshot of the live battle spirit.https://youtu.be/e28QCYvHSis
Troll be gone!!! You may have a better ability to draw lines than me but I... don't live under a bridge (or something like that, I guess):
I linked you a video showing you it on PTS. How is that a photoshop or edit? I don't have any editing software outside of Clipchamp and I can barely use that. That is what it shows for me on PTS. Explain to me, what other buff gives 20% health and 25% weapon/spell damage?Edited by Synapsis123 on 22 September 2024 22:550 -
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✭Well it must be a UI bug, did your actual stats change by that? I wonder if somehow that box is grabbing the Level 1 Farm Bonus to Guards, Heartier Guards and Stronger Guards. Not sure what the numbers on those are but they're similar to what your box is showing.Xbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast0 -
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✭I think there is a bug somewhere.
addons turned on
addons turned off
Here $15, goat mount please. Not gambling or paying 45 : lol :
20% base speed for high ping players.
Streak moves you faster then speed cap.
They should of made 4v4v4v4 instead of 8v8.0 -
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✭cyrodiil has the 20% buff for addons turned on
and normal for addons turned offHere $15, goat mount please. Not gambling or paying 45 : lol :
20% base speed for high ping players.
Streak moves you faster then speed cap.
They should of made 4v4v4v4 instead of 8v8.1