In "The Wing of the Dragon", all three true-sight points around the Fort Grimwatch area are not visible or interactable. On the character I am attempting to do the quest on I've completed the zone story quests in the area, putting it into the phase where the Dro M'athra have been removed.

Editing to Add: I was able to briefly see the true-sight point when entering and exiting the area

Quests & Content

Did you have any trouble starting the questline or finding the quest giver?

I didn't have any issues.

Was the tutorial for Scribing an ability clear?

It seemed pretty clear.

Were any Wards overly difficult to locate during the True-Sight Lens gameplay?

Not once I remembered to look up.

Occasionally, the Lens didn't start when I had just been in combat or had been moving quickly when I went to activate it.

Were all the quest objectives clear? Did you find any of them confusing?

I found them to be clear.

How far did you make it into the Scribing questline?

I completed it.

What did you think about the overall length of the quests, with the knowledge that the quest rewards often unlock account wide benefits?

I hit the occasional moment where it felt long but, much of the time I was enjoying myself (For comparison I hated the Psijic Quest Line even on time one). I generally liked the characters and the environments enough that it didn't feel that long.

Obviously, I might be enjoying myself less running it on a bunch of alts but the first go through was quite good.

Did you understand the storyline in the quests?

Yeah. I thought it had a solid ending.

Additional Comments

The fox was adorable.

@XamXam777 I have the same problem: couldn't start the scribing quest because quest giver is invisible. I tried with 2 copied toons. I will try it with a template toon today. Maybe you can start it only with a template?

Ardriel wrote: »

@XamXam777 I have the same problem: couldn't start the scribing quest because quest giver is invisible. I tried with 2 copied toons. I will try it with a template toon today. Maybe you can start it only with a template?

Same here, no quest giver visible for my copied level 33 character despite him having the quest to talk to him.

Quests & Content

Did you have any trouble starting the questline or finding the quest giver?

No, it was next to the wayshrine so it was easy to figure out.

Was the tutorial for Scribing an ability clear?

Crystal clear.

Were any Wards overly difficult to locate during the True-Sight Lens gameplay?

I struggled a bit with some of them, notably with the wing of the dragon quest until I realized that I needed to do limited movement.

Were all the quest objectives clear? Did you find any of them confusing?

I really hated how all of them were clear except the dragon one. I get the "hahaha it's Elsweyr, time to put riddles" but tbf it was more annoying than anything (yes you can ask a npc to translate said riddles but even translated you have to look at your inventory all the time)

How far did you make it into the Scribing questline?

Finished it on 6 different characters

What did you think about the overall length of the quests, with the knowledge that the quest rewards often unlock account wide benefits?

The account benefits are VERY GOOD, GG ZOS! The length however is left to be desired.. I felt like all the quests were too long. I would like at least to have the wing of the indrik size reduced as you will have to do it on all characters (maybe by having to do only 1 challenge instead of 2). On the bright side, quests rewarding enough ink for a full skill is very nice, thanks!

Did you understand the storyline in the quests?

Yes, pretty nice overall.

Script/Grimoire Acquisition and Crafting

Which Grimoires and Scripts did you focus on collecting?

I didn't have a focus for grimoires as you could buy 90% of them in one go, as for scripts I was focusing on getting enough scraps for the class mastery to test out the drop rate (spoilers: low)

Were you able to figure out how to collect any Grimoire or Script you were interested in?

Yes, I just read the rewards (account upgrades) I earned from the quests.

What did you think about how Grimoires and Scripts were acquired?

I like grimoires but I HATE scripts. Although it seemed that dailies have a guaranteed drop, the thought of doing around 49 dailies per char is discouraging. It's even more discouraging for the class mastery as those scraps have low drop rates. The fact that they are not account bound means spending 100K gold per char for all grimoires, 49 dailies and 50 scraps (again per char) which is absurd for someone who has multiple chars (12 on live for my case, that's 600 scraps needed. I would have been okay with this if the knowledge was account wide.

How did the overall pace of Grimoire, Script, and Ink acquisition feel?

For grimoires and scripts, (excluding class mastery) it was. Ink seems abysmal though. Managed to get one from resource nodes after some farming and despite running 10 different dungeons and 7 skyreach runs, I haven't seen a single ink drop from enemies.

Do you have any general feedback?
Outside of everything I said, please make the crow wing accessible after finishing the quest. I liked the layout and would like to revisit it for time to time. I would also say to add a map marker for the merchant? A lot of people I've seen on PTS didn't even know there was a merchant.

Are you using Gamepad or Keyboard UI?
Keyboard
Were there any parts of the Scribing process that you felt were tedious or confusing?
When re-scribing existing skill it shows the skill in its un-scribed state and requires you to press every single component instead. Quite tedious
While Scribing a skill, were there any pieces of information missing from the screen that you feel would be helpful in making your desired skill?
When re-scribing existing skill let us see current config and change one or 2 components rather than having to click all 3 components.
While browsing your previously created skills in the Archive section of Scribing, were there any pieces of information that would help you more quickly identify and revert back to your desired version of the grimoire/skill?
Before and after view similar to how we morph skills would be nice
Inside of the Skills menu, did you encounter any difficulty with finding and selecting any of your previously scribed skills?
It seemed odd that they appear in front of the list. If I was to progress from noobie to fully unlocked I would expect them to appear in order of acquisition, so scribing skills appear at the end of the list.

I did most of the Gryphon’s quest and I gotta say the Fox looks creepy. I think it’s the eyes, they look painted on.

Quests & Content
Did you have any trouble starting the questline or finding the quest giver?

No

Was the tutorial for Scribing an ability clear?

Yes

Were any Wards overly difficult to locate during the True-Sight Lens gameplay?

No, although a few of them took a couple of minutes longer to find than others.

Were all the quest objectives clear? Did you find any of them confusing?

The bit where we have to prove our commitment to "Justice", or a sense of humour, or whatever by doing 2 from 4, or 3 from 5 objectives was a little unconvincing. Often, the required actions didn't seem to have anything to do with the stated ideal. I just followed the quest markers.

How far did you make it into the Scribing questline?

Completed it.

What did you think about the overall length of the quests, with the knowledge that the quest rewards often unlock account wide benefits?

The story quests are worth doing regardless of the account-wide Scribing benefits. I intend to do the whole questline on more than one character once this goes on Live.

Did you understand the storyline in the quests?

Yes, I think so, apart from all the mysticism of course.

Script Grimoire Acquisition and Crafting
Which Grimoires and Scripts did you focus on collecting?

The ones in the merchants, the mages guilds and from base-game daily quests.

Were you able to figure out how to collect any Grimoire or Script you were interested in?

I wasn't trying to target specific ones.

What did you think about how Grimoires and Scripts were acquired?

It was OK. Not too much effort, apart from the Class Mastery script fragments.

How did the overall pace of Grimoire, Script, and Ink acquisition feel?

Grimoires and scripts OK, apart from the Class Mastery script fragments. I don't do any of the activities that reward Class Mastery script fragments, and I've no plans to start doing them.
Ink drops were non-existent, other than the ones I got for completing the actual Scribing questlines.

Scribing UI
Are you using Gamepad or Keyboard UI?

Keyboard

Were there any parts of the Scribing process that you felt were tedious or confusing?

No

While Scribing a skill, were there any pieces of information missing from the screen that you feel would be helpful in making your desired skill?

No

While browsing your previously created skills in the Archive section of Scribing, were there any pieces of information that would help you more quickly identify and revert back to your desired version of the grimoire/skill?

No

Inside of the Skills menu, did you encounter any difficulty with finding and selecting any of your previously scribed skills?

No

Do you have any general feedback?

I can't find much use for Scribed skills. They mostly offer no advantages over the skills my characters already use. After a full audit I identified only two characters who would benefit from using one scribed skill each. My characters all use Oakensoul, so skill slots are limited, and their builds are already very highly tuned.
I'm mystified as to what the alleged "Role Play" benefits of Scribing are, unless it's the opportunity to play "The Bouncing Bowman of Bangkorai" or something.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

• Were there any parts of the Scribing process that you felt were tedious or confusing?

@ZOS_GinaBruno Could you please let us know whether surveys are meant to drop Luminous Ink or not?

There is something wrong either with the current implementation of getting Ink or with the description of how to do so in the patch notes. Both "tedious" and "confusing" apply here.

From the patch notes: "after completing the quest "The Wing of the Netch" Luminous Ink will rarely drop from harvesting crafting materials."

In my experience so far Ink has not dropped from harvesting survey nodes, even though that quite clearly fits the description of "harvesting crafting materials."

I've gotten 4 ink from 486 non-survey resource nodes. That's a rate of 0.823%, which is somewhat tedious but (imo) acceptable as long as Ink remains tradable.

I'm now up to 113 surveys, though, and have gotten 0 Ink from those 678 nodes.

I see a few possibilities here, but there's no way to tell what's going on without hearing from the dev team:

1. There is a bug where survey nodes are not currently eligible to drop Ink. Please fix this so survey nodes properly drop Ink.
2. Survey nodes are eligible to drop Ink, but I've coincidentally only gotten it from non-survey nodes. This would mean that the overall drop rate is actually very low (0.34% so far). That would be too tedious.
3. Survey nodes are not meant to drop Ink at all. Please correct the patch notes to reflect this, just like you routinely note this exception for events that increase resources. Please also note that there will be immense frustration due to surveys not counting as the resource nodes they are for other purposes (Plentiful Harvest procs, zone-specific mats like Aetherial Dust/Nirncrux/Cassiterite, antiquity leads, etc.). This would feel like yet another artificial way to draw out a process that already demands a huge investment of gold (450k gold for the first 9 Grimoires? 100k per set per alt?) and time (gating rewards from quests like Fighters Guild dailies so they can only drop one script per *account* per day?). But at least this would clear up the confusion here.

Same issue as above ^^ I solved the riddle and the gate is closed. Also, the door that you use to enter/exit the area disappeared (when it bugged out, the door was there prior to touching the braziers) - the archway is still there, but the animated door part is not.

Abandoning the quest to redo it has me interact and listen to the echo and Nahlia, but then it automatically progresses to where it bugged out and skips the first room.

Logging in to a different character and back actually does reset the quest and has me do the first room, but once I solve the second, the gate remains closed. Going back to the first room results in two Nahlias - the one not following the player cannot be interacted with.

The issue of the final quest gate not opening has been fixed. I liked the story of the quest and the characters, but the back and forth within the zones during the different wings was a bit tedious and felt like it served no real purpose other than to have the player constantly porting.

Also the achievement furnishings for scribing are dope.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

• Inside of the Skills menu, did you encounter any difficulty with finding and selecting any of your previously scribed skills?

Not "difficulty" per se, but it would be nice if Scribed Skills had some sort of embellishment or other identifying feature in the UI to distinguish them from the basic skills.

Tandor wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*] Did you have any trouble starting the questline or finding the quest giver?

Post today's patch I can still only see the quest giver with a full template character, he doesn't appear for my copied level 33 character with no CPs.

Same issue here - had to make a template character to unlock the quest giver on my existing (copied) character.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

• Were all the quest objectives clear? Did you find any of them confusing?

I wasn't sure whether the luminary trial objective to "Close an incursion portal in West Weald" (or something to that effect) was referring to the main Mirrormoor Mosaic locations, or whether there are smaller incursion portals dotted around the zone elsewhere (like the Dark Fissures, Abyssal Pools and Lava Vents which are small versions of Dark Anchors, Abyssal Geysers and Volcanic Vents respectively in other zones).

Wing of the Dragon: Riddle of the Moon - gather four Bent Dance Bloom flowers at Moonmont - THE CROW TELLS YOU THEY GROW AT DO'KRIN MONASTERY!

Scribing is a serious let down. I don't want to change my weapon skills, I want to alter my CLASS SKILLS! Nobody can see what is going on in any battlefield due to all the NEON GREEN effects from Arcanists surrounding every player. Let us scribe our way out of that NEON GREEN mess and into something more subtle, PLEASE!?

I would also love to tone down the audio of several OVERLY EXPLOSIVE skills. I love the Sorcerer skill "Crystal Fragments" but would like to alter the sound effect. I know it blows stuff up, let's just do it not quite so loudly, OK? And, while we're at it - I've advanced the skill to its max, let me speed up the casting time to instant, with Scribing, yeah?

I feel like 70% of the time spent in the Gold Road DLC is spent on Scribing, not the lost Prince story. Scribing should be it's own DLC. We didn't spend near the same amount of time, exploring Ithelia's alternate paths as we did on the Luminaries riddles and quests. I can't pinpoint how, but I feel like Ithelia's story is incomplete; I was left somehow, unsatisfied.