But we've managed to survive it before.
Tri-Restos are the only way to comeback from such a thing happening.
Even then, players do 15k on average so one tri resto followed by however many heals you can pull off never saves you in PvP. The only thing you can do is give up because the whole system is against you in all the unfair fights.

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But we've managed to survive it before.

No, that means you were close to dead, but not dead-dead. @valenwood_vegan is correct. The dsync makes it look like everything is just fine after an attack, to the point you may even get off a couple of counters, then everything drops to zero.

No. My bro and I have a couple times managed to evade and escape. Normally they chase us down and kill us but there have been a few times (about 5% of the time) we truly escape and survive another 15 minutes.
If it were desync, we'd die anyways, not lose our resources.
No, if we are below a certain HP and they TARGET us with a kill attack and we evade, it nuked our resources when we are targeted, making chances of escape miniscule. Best evasion is to be on its edge and outpace of my half a meter getting just out of range, causing the attack to miss. Can't roll, can't block, can't heal. But you live anyways.
Their attack misses because you got out of range.

It shouldn't nuke your resources Until the attack HITS, NOT when you are targeted.

Mostly occurs vs cleave, be it player or NPC. Much easier to survive NPC.

They start the cleave, heave it back, you lose your resources, you step outside the radius, they swing, the attack completely misses because you weren't in range.
Sometimes Uppercut does the same thing.

Most noticeable vs greatweapons.
When someone uses arrow spray, or the arrow shotgun ability, normally it doesn't do that until it hits but sometimes it'll nuke resources halfway through their cast time and then you step out and avoid the hit but have no resources for recovery.
Only occurs at very low health, like below 2k.

You receive damage mechanically before it shows up on your health bar. Certain damage sources have a delay before the damage visually appears to sync up with their animations. But it hits when the skill is used or the damage procs.

Example: Reverse Slash hits instantly, but the health damage doesn't appear for a few fractions of a second later, to line up with the downswing of the animation. Lag can obviously cause its own problems on top of this short delay. Bar-swapping instantly after using it will cause the damage to appear instantly. But from my testing, it doesn't cause it to actually hit any earlier.

Source: If you wear Macabre Vintage, you'll see the death explosion a few fractions of a second before the enemy dies for certain skills like Reverse Slash or Impulse. I've never seen the explosion where the enemy DOESN'T die. I was suspicious that this is why I linger alive for a brief time before dying in battlegrounds, but wasn't sure until using this set--lag and other factors make it hard to tell.

Why would it be like this? I think it makes the animations flow and look better without actually having everyone's skills hit on a delay or having cast times, which would feel absolutely terrible to use. It does lead to exceptions where you seem to be surviving, but die, that look like lag. (I mean, there are also desyncs and bugs out there for sure.)

I'm not going to do any type of detailed testing about it, so if someone isn't convinced, we're not going to hash it out here lol.

Ok sorry? It sounds like lag. Put in a bug report then, we can't fix it.

It's a combination of latency, desync, and the client app being a bit weird when it comes to what it prioritizes for updates. Check the top-right corner and you'll see a little message saying "You can't do that while dead". It's frustrating to be sure but you are in fact already dead on the server and the client just didn't let you know in time. Remember that when playing online, by necessity, everything you see is by a reflection of the past.

The fact that you can still move around during this state is because the client has predictive movement to allow for a smoother experience when playing.

Fine. You're right. Its not desync despite everyone having experienced the exact same situation.

Actually, sometimes I get targeted likewise, and resources nuked, then receive a ton of heals restoring me to max health, and survive the hit.
That's happened a couple times as well.