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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

I guess all the Sorc reroller will have a bad wake up call...

moXrox
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....since there will be changes for sure about spamable bolt escape or gap closers, after they did start already introducing a cooldown for bash on the test servers.


Channeltribes: I’m confused how you will fix people holding block and using bash all of the time? It’s dominating PvP- at least bats isn’t now.. And are you nerfing bolt escape?

Zos_jessica_folsom: Channel – We’re looking at Bolt Escape also, but changing any skill is something we do with care. We don’t just listen to player feedback, we look at in-game data reports as well.


Read more on TESO Elite: http://www.tesoelite.com/2014/05/teso-elite-podcast-episode-10-pvp-w-special-guest/#ixzz31KOGoK3r
Edited by moXrox on 10 May 2014 15:44
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  • Hadria
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    That's all gotta do with pvp doesn't bother me at all I love my sorc.
  • Izzban
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    Hadria wrote: »
    That's all gotta do with pvp doesn't bother me at all I love my sorc.
    So why are you in the Alliance War section?

    (Alliance War means PVP)

    OP, I don't know. I don't think there is anything wrong with having multiple classes. Makes you more aware of strengths and weaknesses.

  • biglead
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    Anyone see a pattern starting? I'm calling it right now. After the Sorcerer(and Bash) gets hit with the nerf bat you're going to see complaints flooding these forums about the Archer line.
    Edited by biglead on 10 May 2014 20:58
  • Mange
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    I don't see the need to nerf Bolt Escape. You'd have to buff the secondary aspects if it can't actually be used to escape.
  • Digerati
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    They're adding a cooldown to bash?

    Their original vision was to have zero cooldowns... Another compromise.. Everything they sought to develop in this game has been compromised... Everything that made it special... this is so disappointing.
  • Artemiisia
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    Izzban wrote: »
    Hadria wrote: »
    That's all gotta do with pvp doesn't bother me at all I love my sorc.
    So why are you in the Alliance War section?

    (Alliance War means PVP)

    OP, I don't know. I don't think there is anything wrong with having multiple classes. Makes you more aware of strengths and weaknesses.

    Im not in pvp either, dont mean I dont read up on whats going on, in all aspect of the game, curiosity aint wrong with that??

    Besides, looking through most reason discussion this pops up, I dont even look at what section post are posted in, when looking there.

    Back to the OP, for me as a VR5 sorc, I really dont care if they do, change something with bolt escape, just dont destroy what the skill is supposes to be used for, escape

  • Carde
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    There is no cooldown on bash on the PTS. I know, because I am on the PTS.
    Member of the Psijic Order PTS Group
  • Cydone
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    moXrox wrote: »
    ....since there will be changes for sure about spamable bolt escape or gap closers, after they did start already introducing a cooldown for bash on the test servers.


    Channeltribes: I’m confused how you will fix people holding block and using bash all of the time? It’s dominating PvP- at least bats isn’t now.. And are you nerfing bolt escape?

    Zos_jessica_folsom: Channel – We’re looking at Bolt Escape also, but changing any skill is something we do with care. We don’t just listen to player feedback, we look at in-game data reports as well.


    Read more on TESO Elite: http://www.tesoelite.com/2014/05/teso-elite-podcast-episode-10-pvp-w-special-guest/#ixzz31KOGoK3r

    The bolded/italic doesn't give me much faith. CoD does this when talking about gun balancing and so does TOR when balancing their PvP. 2 things that should worry a LOT of ppl.....considering they seem to be putting more faith into the in-game data reports/metrics, than they are in their own customer base.
  • Tintinabula
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    when other players roll away from dps or run we run for rocks or trees and "hide". I think if a sorc were actually forced to think about where they needed to bolt to in order to "hide" (rather than GPS to the next state) it would be balanced.

    Bolt away...fine by me..but make it so they at least cant bolt to next century and they have to hide.
  • KoooZ
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    Digerati wrote: »
    They're adding a cooldown to bash?

    Their original vision was to have zero cooldowns... Another compromise.. Everything they sought to develop in this game has been compromised... Everything that made it special... this is so disappointing.

    I felt the same way, but this is a rumor that has been debunked by at least ten pts players.

    There is no bash cool down.
  • JosephChip
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    Yes, because the addition of a cooldown to shield bash would completely destroy the soul of this game. Please. I have heard ridiculous arguments but this is just over the top.
  • Izzban
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    Artemiisia wrote: »
    Izzban wrote: »
    Hadria wrote: »
    That's all gotta do with pvp doesn't bother me at all I love my sorc.
    So why are you in the Alliance War section?

    (Alliance War means PVP)

    OP, I don't know. I don't think there is anything wrong with having multiple classes. Makes you more aware of strengths and weaknesses.

    Im not in pvp either, dont mean I dont read up on whats going on, in all aspect of the game, curiosity aint wrong with that??

    Besides, looking through most reason discussion this pops up, I dont even look at what section post are posted in, when looking there.

    Back to the OP, for me as a VR5 sorc, I really dont care if they do, change something with bolt escape, just dont destroy what the skill is supposes to be used for, escape

    Seriously..?

    You are really going to defend some jake that shoved his foot down his throat?

    Not knowing what section of the forums you are posting in does not excuse you from ridicule for posting in the wrong section. This is known....
  • BrassRazoo
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    Well if they keep modifying a subscribers experience due to PvP there will be issues.
    I have seen it happen before.
    Problems in PvP cause developers to make changes due to the vocal complaints from these players, PvP players are a fleeting bunch and soon move on, leaving the PvE players to suffer with spells and passives that have been modified directly due to PvP.
    Soon PvE leave because their force-tuned for PvP, and they don't even play it.

  • Tintinabula
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    you don't even need multiple bolt escape in pve do you?...one bolt and the mobs leash back to their original position.
  • Grampa_Smurf
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    Would love to see a random Bolt Escape shoot you up instead of the direction you are facing.



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  • KoooZ
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    JosephChip wrote: »
    Yes, because the addition of a cooldown to shield bash would completely destroy the soul of this game. Please. I have heard ridiculous arguments but this is just over the top.

    You understand there are no cooldowns in this game and its designed from the ground up to be that way?


    It would not break the "soul" of the game no. But giving one ability a cooldown and only that one random exception would make no sense and be counter intuitive. There's plenty of options before reversing a core design concept.

    Of course this is irrelevant since the rumor is false.
  • Kyotee0071
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    See my sig, the combat system is flawed in this game. Bash being overpowered is a huge problem ( the 1hs version with passives ), as well as animation canceling. If they want anyone to take this game's pvp seriously after the newness/novelty wears off, they better keep fixing things.

    Sorc bolt escape? No clue why they are worried about that skill as of now, they have way worse problems if you ask me. I mean if folks are blatantly hacking in the open world while gathering nodes invisible, speed hacking, levitating, and even underground - what's to stop them using those very same hacks in pvp if they get bored of chipping away at iron ores and picking jute?
    I didn't think my hangover was that bad this morning until I spent 10 minutes trying to log into my old Etch-A-Sketch

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