Silver Shards or Silver Leash?

Nukeyak · May 2014

I'm having a hard time deciding which Silver Bolts morph to go with. Seems like Silver Shards is the overall handier one to have, as it always damages two other enemies. Silver Leash seems a bit more situational and I've heard might be handy in PvP against vampires. Then again as a caster, not sure I want to "leash" a vampire right next to me. Is leash only handy for tanks or melee? Any insights welcome!

SirAndy · May 2014

Silver Leash used to be bugged, not sure if it still is. I've been avoiding it ...

driosketch · May 2014

"As a caster"
I think you answered your own question. Plus you'll have a multi-taget ranged stamina attack, one of the best in game, for when your magicka runs low.

Like Andy, I only used leash in beta when it was bugged, but your assessment is likely right.

Sihnfahl · May 2014

Leash works in PvE fine for me with a few small bugs here and there. It's not working so well in PvP; to be fixed.

I like me that undead / daedra stun. Although there are a few things that you would THINK are undead but aren't, either from someone overlooking them as undead or what.

For some reason, certain 'spirits' aren't classified as undead, even though you think they should (being the restless souls of the disturbed dead)

Comaetilico · May 2014

I've been using leash all day long... so far I only got it to work twice (in around 4 hour of gameplay with intensive use of this skill since I was farming a spot with lots of undead for enhcants...)... is there a trick for it to actualy work and I'm missing it or is it just bugged?

SirAndy · May 2014

Comaetilico wrote: »

I've been using leash all day long... so far I only got it to work twice (in around 4 hour of gameplay with intensive use of this skill since I was farming a spot with lots of undead for enhcants...)... is there a trick for it to actualy work and I'm missing it or is it just bugged?

@Comaetilico Well, that sounds exactly like the bug that was first reported a good 6 months ago ...

Sihnfahl · May 2014

Comaetilico wrote: »

is there a trick for it to actualy work and I'm missing it or is it just bugged?

Okay, what were you doing, what specifically happened?

Comaetilico · May 2014

Sihnfahl wrote: »

Comaetilico wrote: »

is there a trick for it to actualy work and I'm missing it or is it just bugged?

Okay, what were you doing, what specifically happened?

What I was doing:

Aiming at a target, pressing the keybind for silver leash, do it again... I tired doing it with different double tap speed (from spamming the button to pressing it once every 2 seconds with various intermediate values...)

What happened:

after a few silver lash hit the mob (that staied KD all the time due to be an undead) got killed or I run out of stamina and killed it with bow's light attacks

after the first hit with silver lash a "silver wirlwind like" animation pop up on the mob... but no additional effect is played with second or futher hit...

jeremeygutub17_ESO · May 2014

i think the problem is the explanation, I am pretty sure it will only actually pull deadra. Which isn't explicitly stated on the tool tip.

Comaetilico · May 2014

jeremeygutub17_ESO wrote: »

i think the problem is the explanation, I am pretty sure it will only actually pull deadra. Which isn't explicitly stated on the tool tip.

no it work on everything... after repeted test today I pulled out (lol didn't relaize the word play until the post was completed ^^') 43 pull effect out of 50 try on a mix of human, zombie and animals... there is actualy a little trick to it...

the trick is... don't spam ^^' you just have to wait around half a second before clicking the skill again... if you do it too fast it will not work... if you wait too much it will not work either... you just have to try... and try... and try again... until you get the right timing (as it seem during my previous test I just missed the right timing window going from too fast to to slow -_-')... once you get it just use it for a bit and it will become automatic... the timing is a bit more than what the normal gcd between 2 consective use will let you do... for those that have played sorc is almost the same as crystal shard spamming... you wait a bit before casting the next shard in order to get perma CC... if you do it too fast you hit the target while still under the first shard CC... if you do it too slow you get hit by the instant cast ranged attack...

so... just a matter of timing... no bug here... but surely thay could make it a little more responsive and more intuitive in it's use ^^'

Cheatingdeath23 · May 2014

Comaetilico wrote: »

jeremeygutub17_ESO wrote: »

i think the problem is the explanation, I am pretty sure it will only actually pull deadra. Which isn't explicitly stated on the tool tip.

no it work on everything... after repeted test today I pulled out (lol didn't relaize the word play until the post was completed ^^') 43 pull effect out of 50 try on a mix of human, zombie and animals... there is actualy a little trick to it...

the trick is... don't spam ^^' you just have to wait around half a second before clicking the skill again... if you do it too fast it will not work... if you wait too much it will not work either... you just have to try... and try... and try again... until you get the right timing (as it seem during my previous test I just missed the right timing window going from too fast to to slow -_-')... once you get it just use it for a bit and it will become automatic... the timing is a bit more than what the normal gcd between 2 consective use will let you do... for those that have played sorc is almost the same as crystal shard spamming... you wait a bit before casting the next shard in order to get perma CC... if you do it too fast you hit the target while still under the first shard CC... if you do it too slow you get hit by the instant cast ranged attack...

so... just a matter of timing... no bug here... but surely thay could make it a little more responsive and more intuitive in it's use ^^'

Wait, it seriously works on everything?

When I originally morphed I chose the other option because I firmly believed that it only worked on undead. In PvP, it would be extremely helpful to pull people off of towers/keeps.

The_Sadist · May 2014

I went shards purely because the AoE is slightly more useful in my opinion. Is that monster almost dead? Hit his buddy instead and the shard should probably do the job.
That being said I'm finding the spell a little lacklustre, if it had a higher chance to proc or dealt more damage for the stamina used I might change my opinion.

Jarnhand · May 2014

The damage on all the Silver shots, needs to be boosted significant vs undeads/wws.

xxslam48xxb14_ESO · May 2014

Wow if the leash actually worked I could really screw up my enemies plans in pvp. I could snipe them first, then it would let me hit them from further with the leash. You think your safe hiding in your zerg? THINK AGAIN! Damn I want this fixed now! Is it like the dk chain pull or is it like a knock back, but they get knocked towards you instead?

Comaetilico · May 2014

xxslam48xxb14_ESO wrote: »

Wow if the leash actually worked I could really screw up my enemies plans in pvp. I could snipe them first, then it would let me hit them from further with the leash. You think your safe hiding in your zerg? THINK AGAIN! Damn I want this fixed now! Is it like the dk chain pull or is it like a knock back, but they get knocked towards you instead?

as I said before... there is no need for a fix... the skill is actualy working... you just need to get the right timing with it... teh same goes for the DK Flame leash... it is the follow up mechanic by itself that is not one of the best developed features... but once you get the timing and practice it a little than it become quite functional... just need a little practice before you start making plan to use it

agegarton · May 2014

I'm a caster too. Silver Shards has been awesome in multiple target attacks, great for when you want to give your magic a few seconds to charge up or have a chance for a ranged (or close) finishing attack. In addition, I have experienced zero bugs with it.

Hope that helps.