Not that you know me, but I've been saying the opposite of "it will get nerfed into the ground ASAP." Pretty sure a fair amount of others too.

Far from unanimous

bolt escape needs a nerf its OP its not fine its not fair when a sorc can get away from other heal up come back kill one TP away and so on this skill needs a CD or more magicacost even a DK cant bind them while using bolt escape

OR just give every player a skill to bind a bold escaping sorc maybe that silence bolt escape and some other skills with a high range so even if they bolted away we still can use it

This is why I am usually not a fan of games that include both PvE and PvP.

Useful skills in PvE are overpowered in PvP so there is outrage and players call for nerfs. The companies nerf the skills for PvP and then once useful skills in PvE become worthless.

I have been seeing it since the days of EQ. PvP players want the game balanced for them regardless of the impact on the PvE game and vice versa,

The pvp in ESO isnt about getting kills, it's about objective sites - controlling keeps, forts, and resources. If your opponent uses bolt escape to flit away when almost dead, that's just as good as killing them, because it's getting them away from your mine or keep or whatever. If you're on the attacking side, then you're forcing that enemy sorceror to flee the objective they're supposed to be defending.

It's fascinating how fast people have tried every imaginable countermeasures against certain attacks in such a short period of time. Well, I'm assuming this because it would be ridiculous to call for a nerf without even thinking about a proper tactic. I don't believe anybody does that, just way too proposterous.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

The pvp in ESO isnt about getting kills, it's about objective sites - controlling keeps, forts, and resources. If your opponent uses bolt escape to flit away when almost dead, that's just as good as killing them, because it's getting them away from your mine or keep or whatever. If you're on the attacking side, then you're forcing that enemy sorceror to flee the objective they're supposed to be defending.

Not if he gets away and places a forward camp, allowing his dead alliance members to respawn closer to the action. To say that retreat is never a good option in warfare is ignorant of how warfare actually works.

Every good PvP group has at least one player who cuts and runs when their group is about to die, either to place a forward camp or to sneak back and rez people when they get a chance. That's why good PvP groups also camp corpses to try to counter a lone stealther coming back to rez their friends.

Sorcerers are currently uncatchable in this role during group combat. Most of the counters to Bolt Escape require split-second timing in order to target the Sorc before they are out of range, which simply isn't possible in group combat. At least, it's not possible to consistently and repeatedly counter a Sorcerer who is Bolt Escaping away in a group of players, which is what you have to do to stop a Sorc from simply using a second Bolt Escape after you counter their initial use of the ability.

In theory, you can counter Bolt Escape. Under ideal conditions. When the Sorc is alone. And when you time multiple skills perfectly. In other words, 99% of the time they get away. But, keep telling yourself this ability isn't broken because the community has found some counters which work in a vacuum.

-Travail.

Be careful when you wish for the nerf bat. I have seen many MMO's become empty of players when the company starts the "balancing act". For every skill line they nerf they will *** off a lot of players. I like ESO and want it to grow into a healthy community. Nerfing is not the way to do it.

Right now they should be fixing the broken skill lines not killing ones you think are too strong. ZOS has shown that they will nerf even when the skill line is almost unplayable. Vampire skill line comes to mind.

They should fix all skill lines before they nerf anything.

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

Problem is , people also quit if they dont nerf or buff other skill lines.

Im playing a templar , and i can tell you , im REALLY close to quitting , because my class appears to be a piece of crap when compared to DKs mostly. So yeah , either this balance this , and soon , or they will lose players without the nerfs.

I am also a Templar V2 at the moment. I agree with you that the Templars are probably the weakest class. I am currently on my 3rd different build with him trying to get something that works better in the veteran areas.

I went with a Templar in the beginning because of the team of players I started with (I knew we would need group heals). If I had to start over again I would probably do a sorcerer vamplar with a line for both staffs. But that being said I do like the Templar. I can now survive somewhat in the Veteran content but I agree we could use some love.

However, I do not think they need to nerf other class lines. When you take away something or weaken some ones build you make it where they can't do what they could do the day before. Most result in rage quit.

I feel strongly that they should fix all the skill lines passive and actives before they even think about nerfing. NB and Vamp lines need some serious fixing.

First, congratulations on the original thread and the competence you've shown with the forum search feature. Bravo sir, you've contributed quite a lot by creating a thread that already has 3-5 active threads on the topic.

Second, you're wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kfzJ1lNlU4

serenity_painted wrote: »

Oh *** entire guilds are rerolling sorcs so they can all run away together.
What ever will we do?

Maby they should make a new guild and call it France.

+1