Tower of Unutterable Truths is Overpriced

Shagreth · February 22

Yeah, a silly thing to say when all big houses like this are overpriced, but still, I can't justify its price when compared to say, Fogbreak Lighthouse. I wish you guys reduced the prices for Notable Houses across the board. @ZOS_Kevin Spending well over 80$ for a house is ridiculous, especially in today's economy. <snip>

p.s. more small cozy houses please, we keep asking but you rarely deliver. A cozy little wooden house over at Cipher's Midden would sell like MAD.

<snipped for Trolling>

Daoin · February 22

is a nice house though, have not tested whether or not we die dropping into the depths of it yet though

Vaqual · February 22

Daoin wrote: »

is a nice house though, have not tested whether or not we die dropping into the depths of it yet though

it brings you to the roof

Jaimeh · February 22

Daoin wrote: »

is a nice house though, have not tested whether or not we die dropping into the depths of it yet though

This made me laugh, I haven't previewed the house yet, but good to know there are perilous depths

ADarklore · February 23

I was excited for it at first... but after previewing it last night, it'll be a pass. I just cannot even envision setting it up, it's just oddly shaped and honestly, the color was nauseating after being in there awhile. I'm fine with Apocrypha everywhere else, but inside this home, it was just not pleasant.

I'd rather have a more simple "sanctum" than this hot mess.

Shagreth · February 23

ADarklore wrote: »

I was excited for it at first... but after previewing it last night, it'll be a pass. I just cannot even envision setting it up, it's just oddly shaped and honestly, the color was nauseating after being in there awhile. I'm fine with Apocrypha everywhere else, but inside this home, it was just not pleasant.

I'd rather have a more simple "sanctum" than this hot mess.

Couldn't agree more. I usually have a general idea of what I want to do once I step in a house and this has nothing to do with the Herma theme being alien etc. it's just badly structured, even the outside area feels awkward, very bad position for a house as big as this. I'd only purchase this if it cost around the same as the Snowglobe one.

Araneae6537 · February 23

That’s too bad. I did want a house in Apocrypha and I like aspects of the style in some of the delves and the Archive, but viewing the house on the PTS, I wasn’t sure what to make of the layout. Some levels just felt cramped and dismal to me rather than spooky or gothic. Plus outside the house, I felt it was a real missed opportunity to not include waters and seekers passing by — this is an aspect I love about the Doomchar Plateau.

Unless the price is right for me, I’ll probably get the furnishings instead and continue making over Bastion Sanguinaris into my Apocryphal Athenaeum.

ADarklore · February 24

I think I'm going to buy the furnishing pack, and add them to my Emissary's Enclave house. I really love this house, and it has an entrance to the Outlaw's Refuge built in. This was probably one of their better designed houses IMO.

What's funny is, I just realized a short time ago that I actually have the Kelesan'ruhn house in the Telvanni Peninsula as well, didn't even realize I owned it until I saw it on the house list and was confused as I knew I hadn't bought any houses there other than the EE house, so I teleported there. It's actually quite decent, and was amazed that it was FREE due to apparently participating in an event I was not even aware of. LoL!

evymyu233 · February 26

i hope we can have more small house that can be purchased with gold coins

Shagreth · February 26

evymyu233 wrote: »

i hope we can have more small house that can be purchased with gold coins

Imagine a tiny house with a yard in Cipher's Midden or Seyda Neen (I can't express how much Morrowind and that place means to me and many others) both huge missed opportunities, they always just give ua whay we don't want. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I hope you guys are listening to our feedback.

Lugaldu · February 26

My wish always remains the same: please give us more empty plots of land to build on ourselves! Especially since we have more and more huge structural furnishings.

I looked at the Tower, but there isn't even a large outside area that you could build on. I don't even have to think twice about whether I buy the house or not, it's a clear no for me.

Shagreth · February 26

Lugaldu wrote: »

My wish always remains the same: please give us more empty plots of land to build on ourselves! Especially since we have more and more huge structural furnishings.

I looked at the Tower, but there isn't even a large outside area that you could build on. I don't even have to think twice about whether I buy the house or not, it's a clear no for me.

IMO every single area should have a small (or two) a medium and then a notable (since they love those so much) and an empty plot.

TheNuminous1 · February 26

I just got gladesong I can't get another geez.

Pixiepumpkin · February 26

Instead of spending 80 dollars on this house, I spent 29 on Nightingale. Already have close to 50 hours in, I am loving it (outside of the early access issues plaging every early access game) and I feel the stockholme syndrome wearing off of me with ESO pricing, meaning its nice to pay for a game, and play for fun with everything attainable in game.

Its utterly amazing how much we spend in ESO and how little we get. Starting to think its time to ackowledge the cost sunk fallacy and move on. Spending more in ESO is not going to make it any more fun.

Shagreth · February 26

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

Instead of spending 80 dollars on this house, I spent 29 on Nightingale. Already have close to 50 hours in, I am loving it (outside of the early access issues plaging every early access game) and I feel the stockholme syndrome wearing off of me with ESO pricing, meaning its nice to pay for a game, and play for fun with everything attainable in game.

Its utterly amazing how much we spend in ESO and how little we get. Starting to think its time to ackowledge the cost sunk fallacy and move on. Spending more in ESO is not going to make it any more fun.

I honestly don't know what world the devs are living in, provided that pricing of the crown store is in their control, but Rich Lambert before has defended the practice of even Crown Crates, so, there's that. Anyway, it's brutal out there nowadays, not sure how bad it is in the US, but it's quite bad in Europe -- a reduction in some prices would help a lot of people that want to keep supporting the game with things outside of the subscription, dlc etc. I honestly wouldn't mind that much, but the reward system in ESO is quite bad, with most of the nice cosmetics ending up for $.

VisitHammerfell · March 1

Fully agree on a cozy wooden home in Cipher's Midden! Like Twin Arches sized or so, maybe a little balcony. Now that I most of the ones that I really like, I rarely buy the large homes anymore due to the cost (Fair Winds & Shadow Queen being the latest exceptions). Even besides the unaffordable cost, I'd much rather buy idk say Cipher's Midden house, Orsinium townhouse, Vastyr apartment, Fargrave loft for the price of one megamansion. And Sword Singer's from the PTS, like I don't need a giant cave I just want a Hammerfell guild house

Tower itself is cool but too difficult to decorate. Not for me, bu have to wait and see what some housing ethusiasts do with it before I judge it too much.

moo_2021 · March 2

Hall of the Lunar Champion is free and maybe the largest of all houses!

Coldharbour Surreal Estate can be bought by a million gold.

Doomchar Plateau can be earned by event tickets.

Nerouyn · April 8

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

Instead of spending 80 dollars on this house, I spent 29 on Nightingale. Already have close to 50 hours in, I am loving it (outside of the early access issues plaging every early access game) and I feel the stockholme syndrome wearing off of me with ESO pricing, meaning its nice to pay for a game, and play for fun with everything attainable in game.

Nightingale is fabulous. I give it two thumbs despite all the negativity. Has some rough edges but it is brilliant.

But the games are very different beasts in relation to housing.

I found myself a lovely Nightingale island to live on with multiple gorgeous fountains and set myself to building.

Even just sticking with a block'ish design it is complicated. Faking round(ish) is possible but complicated.

Meanwhile ESO isn't bound by the block limitation and assuming they make something to your tastes, being able to just move in and start furnishing is a boon.

For me this is the first crown store home to tick all of my boxes. Seeing the house only now I've had to put in a support ticket begging them to let me buy it minus all furnishings. Hoping they still do that.

I've just recently had the opportunity to try Arcanist and love it.

I would prefer that none of the houses be crown store only but for me, there is nothing else I could spend this amount of money on to get the same amount of joy.

Pixiepumpkin · April 10

Nerouyn wrote: »

Pixiepumpkin wrote: »

Instead of spending 80 dollars on this house, I spent 29 on Nightingale. Already have close to 50 hours in, I am loving it (outside of the early access issues plaging every early access game) and I feel the stockholme syndrome wearing off of me with ESO pricing, meaning its nice to pay for a game, and play for fun with everything attainable in game.

Nightingale is fabulous. I give it two thumbs despite all the negativity. Has some rough edges but it is brilliant.

But the games are very different beasts in relation to housing.

I found myself a lovely Nightingale island to live on with multiple gorgeous fountains and set myself to building.

Even just sticking with a block'ish design it is complicated. Faking round(ish) is possible but complicated.

Meanwhile ESO isn't bound by the block limitation and assuming they make something to your tastes, being able to just move in and start furnishing is a boon.

For me this is the first crown store home to tick all of my boxes. Seeing the house only now I've had to put in a support ticket begging them to let me buy it minus all furnishings. Hoping they still do that.

I've just recently had the opportunity to try Arcanist and love it.

I would prefer that none of the houses be crown store only but for me, there is nothing else I could spend this amount of money on to get the same amount of joy.

I have since moved on from Nightingale to Ensrhouded. Still, both games together cost less than this house and I am already 250 hours into the game.

Wife and I are having a ton of fun in Enshrouded. Its amazing once you get away from ESO how much a video game can deliver in fun for a paltry amount of money.

odaphii · April 13

Cozy homes; YES. I would love a house in Seyda Neen or something. My biggest wish is that we one day get to visit Whiterun and Breezehome becomes available!

Alastrine · April 15

I wanted to create a "H.Mora" home and had high hopes for this one but like others once inside it I could just not get any inspiration as to where I would place things.
I can create all these great book stacks, levitating books, filled bookshelves etc. but this house provides no space to do anything with them.
I think I will turn to my Earthtear Cavern or my Cold Harbor property to build my Mora themed place. The Cavern is winning so far in my idea process.

Nerouyn · April 16

Alastrine wrote: »

I can create all these great book stacks, levitating books, filled bookshelves etc. but this house provides no space to do anything with them.

You could treat the ground floor as a lot of small spaces around the outside.

First floor has 3 large rooms.

Basement / inky pool floor has lots of potential. I don't have my hands on it yet so can't confirm but my guess is it would be possible to floor over that pool if you either don't like or just want more space.

The outer ring on the basement level also strikes me as more potential floor space. Possibly more complicated for being circular but I'm guessing that at least some of the Apocrypha structural pieces will fit neatly to create more floor space over the gaping void.

Plus or alternatively there's also the space beneath. Previewing the house I jumped down onto the rocks so it should be possible to build an entire floor across those.

The only space I couldn't see myself doing much with is the second / top floor which doesn't look big enough to do anything other than serve as an exit to the balcony.