Stamden is since release the most irrelevant class for PvE DPS in the game. Every class has its phases inbetweenbpatches but never had the Stamina Warden. I wish they would make Warden in general and other "bad dps classes" interesting again.

There’s a sizable change in damage depending on whether you slot an ice staff. I got on my stamden on PTS to try all the latest changes with status effects, hemorrhage is about as strong as before, Winters revenge continues to be a small fraction of damage with anything other than ice staff equipped. But the biggest change is frozen status damage has been massively buffed. Stamden without an ice staff feels even weaker on PTS in comparison.

*Edit* Also charged trait took a big hit, dropping from 365% to 235%, however destruction staff continues to add 100% increase to status proc chance. With charged ice staff equipped there are far more status procs than with charged daggers/greatsword/bow on the PTS

mocap wrote: »

youtube "eso stamina warden pve". 130k+ parses there for current update.

Haven't digged much into this, but it looks like builds are something like:
2h vMA + Yokeda + Coral + Zaan

You raise a valid point with the builds you mentioned. Yeah, there are two parsing metas present:

2H MA backbar with Rapid Strikes
or
Wrecking Blow spam for Major Berserk

Both of these work for producing 130k parses because the damage from the Rapid Strikes is so high for the former, and the presence of Major Berserk for the latter. Both are also considered cheesing for dummy parsing and are far less effective in content. Particularly when there is lag or dealing with enemies that move.

To take a better look at how the class is faring in content, take a look at the scores for endgame dps for vSE HM. Here is the dps ranks by class:

https://www.esologs.com/zone/statistics/17/#class=DPS

Although the metric here is the score and not the actual dps from that class, it gives a good indication of what dps classes are being used for endgame. Do you notice one class that is absent from dps lists? Since most groups can get warden buffs from their healer, stamden dps is so low that their contribution to endgame is little more than as a carry.

moderatelyfatman wrote: »

mocap wrote: »

youtube "eso stamina warden pve". 130k+ parses there for current update.

Haven't digged much into this, but it looks like builds are something like:
2h vMA + Yokeda + Coral + Zaan

You raise a valid point with the builds you mentioned. Yeah, there are two parsing metas present:

2H MA backbar with Rapid Strikes
or
Wrecking Blow spam for Major Berserk

Both of these work for producing 130k parses because the damage from the Rapid Strikes is so high for the former, and the presence of Major Berserk for the latter. Both are also considered cheesing for dummy parsing and are far less effective in content. Particularly when there is lag or dealing with enemies that move.

To take a better look at how the class is faring in content, take a look at the scores for endgame dps for vSE HM. Here is the dps ranks by class:

https://www.esologs.com/zone/statistics/17/#class=DPS

Although the metric here is the score and not the actual dps from that class, it gives a good indication of what dps classes are being used for endgame. Do you notice one class that is absent from dps lists? Since most groups can get warden buffs from their healer, stamden dps is so low that their contribution to endgame is little more than as a carry.

I wonder how accurate a portrayal these metrics are though… especially now it’s magcro changes!

i'm sorry everyone, i've been trying.