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Poison effect

yadibroz
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The executes is not working as intended for all poison skills even injection and some poison skills like shalk and venom skull, still don't applied instant which I am very disappointed by it.
  • Zodiarkslayer
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    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️
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  • yadibroz
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    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.
  • CameraBeardThePirate
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    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.
    Edited by CameraBeardThePirate on 29 March 2024 14:54
  • yadibroz
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    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.

    Oh I understand now well it still ashamed that it like that, I was thinking all poison abilities is buff but is not.
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    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.

    Oh I understand now well it still ashamed that it like that, I was thinking all poison abilities is buff but is not.

    Nope. Only the status effect counts as an execute. Which is interesting functionality for sure.
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  • yadibroz
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    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.

    Oh I understand now well it still ashamed that it like that, I was thinking all poison abilities is buff but is not.

    Nope. Only the status effect counts as an execute. Which is interesting functionality for sure.

    So let say I use a set that has poison and it show that effect from it, will that be as execute or no?
  • notyuu
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    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.

    Oh I understand now well it still ashamed that it like that, I was thinking all poison abilities is buff but is not.

    Nope. Only the status effect counts as an execute. Which is interesting functionality for sure.

    So let say I use a set that has poison and it show that effect from it, will that be as execute or no?

    If the effect in question is "poisoned" (which has a chance at being applied by ANY source of poison damage) then yes it would be an execute, however if it's something else like the air poison fart from the sheer venom set, then it will not be an execute

    Tl;Dr
    Poison damage can apply poisoned status effect regardless of source
    Poisoned status effect is execute
  • yadibroz
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    notyuu wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.

    Oh I understand now well it still ashamed that it like that, I was thinking all poison abilities is buff but is not.

    Nope. Only the status effect counts as an execute. Which is interesting functionality for sure.

    So let say I use a set that has poison and it show that effect from it, will that be as execute or no?

    If the effect in question is "poisoned" (which has a chance at being applied by ANY source of poison damage) then yes it would be an execute, however if it's something else like the air poison fart from the sheer venom set, then it will not be an execute

    Tl;Dr
    Poison damage can apply poisoned status effect regardless of source
    Poisoned status effect is execute

    It is a bit complicated but thank you for explaining better than zos so I'm going to try to find the best poison set and ability where it do applied the statues effect all the time for the executes.
  • CameraBeardThePirate
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    yadibroz wrote: »
    notyuu wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.

    Oh I understand now well it still ashamed that it like that, I was thinking all poison abilities is buff but is not.

    Nope. Only the status effect counts as an execute. Which is interesting functionality for sure.

    So let say I use a set that has poison and it show that effect from it, will that be as execute or no?

    If the effect in question is "poisoned" (which has a chance at being applied by ANY source of poison damage) then yes it would be an execute, however if it's something else like the air poison fart from the sheer venom set, then it will not be an execute

    Tl;Dr
    Poison damage can apply poisoned status effect regardless of source
    Poisoned status effect is execute

    It is a bit complicated but thank you for explaining better than zos so I'm going to try to find the best poison set and ability where it do applied the statues effect all the time for the executes.

    Lethal Arrow always applies poisoned.

    Poison Injection has a direct damage portion and a DoT portion, both of which can apply poisoned. Poison Injection is also an execute by itself.

    Enchants have a very high chance to apply status effects (20% at base without charged trait), so adding a poison weapon glyph to your weapon will increase the uptime of the poisoned status effect on any build.
    Edited by CameraBeardThePirate on 30 March 2024 17:14
  • yadibroz
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    yadibroz wrote: »
    notyuu wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.

    Oh I understand now well it still ashamed that it like that, I was thinking all poison abilities is buff but is not.

    Nope. Only the status effect counts as an execute. Which is interesting functionality for sure.

    So let say I use a set that has poison and it show that effect from it, will that be as execute or no?

    If the effect in question is "poisoned" (which has a chance at being applied by ANY source of poison damage) then yes it would be an execute, however if it's something else like the air poison fart from the sheer venom set, then it will not be an execute

    Tl;Dr
    Poison damage can apply poisoned status effect regardless of source
    Poisoned status effect is execute

    It is a bit complicated but thank you for explaining better than zos so I'm going to try to find the best poison set and ability where it do applied the statues effect all the time for the executes.

    Lethal Arrow always applies poisoned.

    Poison Injection has a direct damage portion and a DoT portion, both of which can apply poisoned. Poison Injection is also an execute by itself.

    Enchants have a very high chance to apply status effects (20% at base without charged trait), so adding a poison weapon glyph to your weapon will increase the uptime of the poisoned status effect on any build.

    When I try injection in the end like let say 40 to 20% I don't get a execute like how I do with lethal, when it don't make sense on how lethal do a big damage than injection when it say it do 120% so I really don't understand if it still bug or don't work as intended.
  • MidniteOwl1913
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    What is execute damage?

    ANd why is figuring out what does how much damage to whom so difficult? Gah!

    Edited by MidniteOwl1913 on 30 March 2024 19:08
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  • yadibroz
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    What is execute damage?

    ANd why is figuring out what does how much damage to whom so difficult? Gah!

    Well bow skill supposed go to have a execute ability which was injection but is not working as intended especially with this new poison buff, so it unfortunately I can't enjoy having a poison ability that will work well except lethal.
  • MashmalloMan
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    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    notyuu wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    yadibroz wrote: »
    You got something wrong there ... 🤓

    The poison status effect has execute damage, not all poison damage abilities. ☝️

    I really try on everything and sadly lethal is still only one that do lot of damage but yes injection still not work for execute so I really not sure what specific ability will do the execute then, I need assistance.

    Poison status =/= poison damage.

    Poisoned status effect has execute scaling. If you deal poison damage to an enemy, they may be inflicted with the "Poisoned" status effect, which has execute scaling.

    Poison abilities (venomous claw, venom skull, noxious breath) do not have execute scaling unless otherwise explicitly stated in the tooltip (like the bow skill Poison Injection). They will not deal execute damage.

    Only the Poisoned status effect deals execute damage.

    Oh I understand now well it still ashamed that it like that, I was thinking all poison abilities is buff but is not.

    Nope. Only the status effect counts as an execute. Which is interesting functionality for sure.

    So let say I use a set that has poison and it show that effect from it, will that be as execute or no?

    If the effect in question is "poisoned" (which has a chance at being applied by ANY source of poison damage) then yes it would be an execute, however if it's something else like the air poison fart from the sheer venom set, then it will not be an execute

    Tl;Dr
    Poison damage can apply poisoned status effect regardless of source
    Poisoned status effect is execute

    It is a bit complicated but thank you for explaining better than zos so I'm going to try to find the best poison set and ability where it do applied the statues effect all the time for the executes.

    Lethal Arrow always applies poisoned.

    Poison Injection has a direct damage portion and a DoT portion, both of which can apply poisoned. Poison Injection is also an execute by itself.

    Enchants have a very high chance to apply status effects (20% at base without charged trait), so adding a poison weapon glyph to your weapon will increase the uptime of the poisoned status effect on any build.

    When I try injection in the end like let say 40 to 20% I don't get a execute like how I do with lethal, when it don't make sense on how lethal do a big damage than injection when it say it do 120% so I really don't understand if it still bug or don't work as intended.

    Simple math. Poison Injections upfront damage is 1161, Lethal Arrow is 2483. Even if you had your enemy at 1% health for the maximum +120% damage, Poison Injections upfront hit would deal 2554, which is only 3% stronger so at maximum, you still wouldn't use it as a spammable. Thing is, Lethal Arrow has guaranteed Poisoned Status effect application too, so really, the 2483 is probably roughly 2800ish. No matter how you slice it, PI is not worth spamming instead of LA.

    Poison Injection does not poison enemies, it applies a dot that deals poison damage. There is an important distinction. "Poisoned" is the name of the status effect that can apply from any poison damage. LA guarantees it, PI does not, the upfront hit has a 10% chance, the dot has a 3% chance each tick. PI's dot ticks 10 times over 20s.
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  • notyuu
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    What is execute damage?

    ANd why is figuring out what does how much damage to whom so difficult? Gah!

    Execute damage is bonus damage that increases based on how much of the targets hp is missing, for example reverse slash has its damage increase by up to 300% based on how far below 50% the targets hp is.

    For example, if the target has 1% hp you'll be getting the full 300% bonus damage, if they have 49% hp you get 1% bonus damage, if they have 51% hp you get no bonus damage.

    Tl:Dr execute make damage go up when target hp go below threshold, threshold varies based on skill
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